The Coffee House - the UU Fellowship Thread (churches, experience) - Page 6

Nozem · #51 09-26-2005, 02:50 PM

"But occasionally a song gets on my nerves when it seems to leave everything up to God, without addressing our responsibility in helping to bring about our own "salvation." So when the soloist was singing "My Lord can cure cancer" I was shifting uncomfortably in my pew."
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I couldn't agree more! I find it hard to accept the more Calvinistic idea that one is 'saved' or 'damned'. I think that it is in Voltaire's novel 'Candide' there is the expression , 'that we must work on the garden of ourselves'. Trying to be constanly conscious of our thoughts and actions. I hope to add to the 'energy' of the service by trying to involve myself in my visit to the Church.

Green Gaia · #52 10-17-2005, 10:49 AM

It's official now... I'm a UU Lite.

I have successfully decaffeinated myself. It only took 2 weeks and 3 or 4 headaches. I love my coffee but I did this for health reasons. Basically, I'm trying to be healthier and found if I was downing a pot of coffee in the morning I wasn't eating breakfast and was stark raving hungry by mid-morning which would send me searching for something (usually unhealthy) to snack on. I've replaced that jolt I got from my coffee with exercise and a good breakfast. Wasn't easy the first few days, but I'm feeling much better throughout the whole day now.

Anyway, just thought I'd ramble on a bit.... I hope you all are well.

Davidium · #53 10-17-2005, 05:01 PM

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I'm a UU Lite.

I would have thought of you as a UU Latte myself, Maize

Me... I tend to think of myself as more of the UU Navy Brew.... as dark as coca cola and you have to use a spoon to get it out of the cup....

Congrats on cutting out the caffiene. There are quite a few more serious health risks for women that are caffiene related than for men, for some odd reason.

Yours in Faith,

David

lilithu · #54 10-18-2005, 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Maize

It's official now... I'm a UU Lite.

I have successfully decaffeinated myself.

No coffee!!?

Aw Maize, say it ain't so!

Just kidding. Congratulations!!

I love my coffee but I am so phobically opposed to any kind of chemical dependancy that I make sure to never drink more than two cups a day, usually only one, and never for more than two or three consecutive days. And unless I'm at a conference, I only drink coffee in the afternoon, over conversation, not as a stimulant in the morning.

David, asside from an increased risk of osteoporosis, what other negative eefects does caffeine have on women's health? In moderate amounts, caffeine is supposed to help ward off depression in women (but for some reason not in men).

Davidium · #55 10-19-2005, 10:18 AM

There are studies out there linking caffine to the development of cysts in breast tissue... and if you are at a hereditary risk for breast cancer, there is the belief that caffine related cysts could increase that risk.

Here is a good personal website on this and other such issues...

http://www.bangalorenet.com/system1/...s%20health.htm

This is not well publicized.... the only reason I know about it is that an ex of mine was at an increased risk for breast cancer due to family history, and her doctor had us take caffine completely out of her diet. I think if you are not at serious risk, then a moderate amount of caffine is not a problem.

Almost every female in her family line had developed breast cancer.

Yours in faith,

David

Green Gaia · #56 10-19-2005, 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Davidium

There are studies out there linking caffine to the development of cysts in breast tissue... and if you are at a hereditary risk for breast cancer, there is the belief that caffine related cysts could increase that risk.

I did not know that. That's good to be aware of, even though I'm not considered a "high" risk for breast cancer it's still something that concerns me, obviously.

My reason for cutting out the caffine was just part of a complete change in the way I approach diet and nutrition. I'm sure I'll still have caffine on occasion, but I got out of that cycle of needing it everyday. And I feel great for it.

Green Gaia · #57 10-23-2005, 12:07 PM

Faith without Good Deeds Is Dead
(From the New Testament) James 2:14-18

Dear brothers and sisters, what's the use of saying you have faith if you don't prove it by your actions? That kind of faith can't save anyone. Suppose you see a brother or sister who needs food or clothing, and you say, "Well, good-bye and God bless you; stay warm and eat well"--but then you don't give that person any food or clothing. What good does that do?

So you see, it isn't enough just to have faith. Faith that doesn't show itself by good deeds is no faith at all--it is dead and useless.

Now someone may argue, "Some people have faith; others have good deeds." I say, "I can't see your faith if you don't have good deeds, but I will show you my faith through my good deeds."

lilithu · #58 10-25-2005, 11:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Maize

Faith without Good Deeds Is Dead
(From the New Testament) James 2:14-18

Dear brothers and sisters, what's the use of saying you have faith if you don't prove it by your actions? That kind of faith can't save anyone. Suppose you see a brother or sister who needs food or clothing, and you say, "Well, good-bye and God bless you; stay warm and eat well"--but then you don't give that person any food or clothing. What good does that do?

So you see, it isn't enough just to have faith. Faith that doesn't show itself by good deeds is no faith at all--it is dead and useless.

Now someone may argue, "Some people have faith; others have good deeds." I say, "I can't see your faith if you don't have good deeds, but I will show you my faith through my good deeds."

Hey Maize, namaste.

Just to let you know:
We had our UU theology class this evening - tonight about linking our theology to our social justice work - and it was my turn to pick an opening reading. The poem that I wanted to do on prophets was too long.
(http://www.religiousforums.com/forum...49691#poststop)
So I chose your James quote above. May not have thought of using it if I hadn't just seen it here, even tho I cite it all the time. It was perfect. Thanks! Very modern translation. Where is it from? My minister actually asked me whether it really was from James because the language was so conversational.