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I'll admit, I'd never even heard of Unitarian Universalism before I met Maize. But, considering there is only one UU congregation in Australia, and it's not in my state, I could be forgiven for that lol. It's certainly more appealing than any religion you can find a church for around my town. :roll:
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Another key issue--a religion/philosophy may help one live in this life. As we all are curious and have thought about an afterlife, regardless to which religion (or anti-religion) we subscribe, a religion which is not authoritative about that afterlife leaves this unending curiousity unsatisfied.
Does UU address this issue in any authoritative way? |
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No. UU does not tell people what to believe about the afterlife. In fact, very few UUs believe in a continuing, individualized existence after physical death. Even fewer believe in the physical existence of places called heaven or hell where one goes after dying. We believe immortality manifests itself in the lives of those we affect during our lifetime and in the legacy we leave when we die.
I disagree with you that UU not being authoritative about that afterlife leaves this a person unsatisfied. Instead, they are even the opportunity to decide for themself what they believe the afterlife be like, if indeed there will be one. If a person is wanting a religion that tells them how to think and what to believe, then Unitarian Universalism is probably not for them. We like to think for ourselves. :wink:
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The first time I read of UU was a few months before joining this forum, when I happened to take one of those Internet quizzes. It ranked fairly high on my list. I was utterly dumbfounded. I had never heard of such a thing, and I found no Internet hits in Sweden, any way I translated the name. Probably there is no organised UU here. As for the rest of the world, I think that people who think for themselves have less need than others for formal bodies.
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I can't find any in Sweden either, anders. But here is a map of where UUs are. I thought it was interesting..
http://www.icuu.net/world_map.html
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My atheism, like that of Spinoza,
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I think that is part of the reason why there is so little emphasis on authority in the UU church. Our ministers are more here to guide than lead-- often we have lay services run by people within the congregation (at least in my church). Usually our services are about exploration of ideas rather than about presenting one idea and expecting others to simply believe it because someone in charge said it was so. Those who think for themselves DO like to get together with others who think for themselves. Within my covenant group there is lots of debate. We have science and religion discussions in which everyone participating researches and then comes into the forum ready to discuss. The UU church is not so much about meeting with others to reinforce what we believe or (even worse) to allow others to tell us what to believe, but to explore and exchange ideas and have healthy dialogue. In a way my church services and a few of the groups I'm in remind me a lot of this forum... there are a lot of individual thinkers on here who come just to be able to bounce ideas off of other individual thinkers.
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I have to say, it sounds like someone finally got it right. Wow, an acceptance that things can be OK and all people are worthy of love and respect. Kind of tremendous. Granted, I am no pacifist, but I am pretty much where I desire to be spiritually, or rather well on that path. But I must say it sounds amazing. I often sat around and thought:darn it someone should make a religion that doesn't try and scare the hell out of you and accepts all colors and creeds. And then I come here only to discover I am way behind the power curve... ah, well.
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***MOD EDIT***
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I'm new to the forums and to the church. I am a 16 year old African American male living in Baker, Louisiana, who has been attending the Unitarian Universalist Church in Baton Rouge for nearly 2 months. I kind of get the church. It is a good place to go to, to learn. Well, before arriving in May I was thinkin of being an atheist as i kind of believe in the Big Bang Theory, but my Health teacher told me about the place and said I would like it. I kind of do, because I'm kind of soul searching. That does sound strange for 16, but I am. I'm still new, I will take the classes i August to formally join. I'm like the only Black kid in the whole church, not to mention the Adult sessions :talk:
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Hey United!
I'm pretty new to the UU church as well. I was raised Unitarian Universalist, but after the age of about 10 my parents stopped taking me to church. I am also the youngest in any adult activities I go to (new UU classes, covenant groups, choir), although I'm a couple years older than you. However, if you want to hang out with kids your own age, you should check to see if your congregation has a Unitarian Youth or High School UU group. Mine does, and I know there is a national group for UU youth... so I see no reason why your congregation would not have such activities. As for being or not being atheist... it is perfectly acceptable to be atheist within the UU church. It is a people-centered religion rather than a God-centered religion. If that is what you feel, do not think you need to hide it. I think you may be surprised to find that the UU church is filled with agnostics and atheists... I am definitely a UU agnostic, and if philosophical Taoism can be considered atheism, then I am a UU atheist. I'm in a college UU group and there are more people in the group that fit those catagories than people who believe without a doubt that there is a God. This is a religion where you are free to be yourself!
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