Pilgrim UCC deals with sexual offender as a member (Jesus, moral)

[Mestemia]

Originally Posted by Khalila

I'm going to say it's very safe to say that having a death penalty is no real deterrent against committing murder.

I agree.
I have lost count of the number of times I have heard convicted killers say that they drove over the state line to avoid the death penalty in their home state...

[des]

I got side tracked and just about answered you, but I should have pointed out that this is not a debate forum. Go over to the debate sections. I'm sure some people would love to debate you on capital punishment.

Also this post, is not inline with the OP. The discussion is not about capital punishment and imprisonment, but it is about church communities providing love and redemption for a serious crime.


--des

Originally Posted by Mestemia

I agree.
I have lost count of the number of times I have heard convicted killers say that they drove over the state line to avoid the death penalty in their home state...

[Mestemia]

Originally Posted by des

I got side tracked and just about answered you, but I should have pointed out that this is not a debate forum. Go over to the debate sections. I'm sure some people would love to debate you on capital punishment.

Also this post, is not inline with the OP. The discussion is not about capital punishment and imprisonment, but it is about church communities providing love and redemption for a serious crime.


--des

You are absolutely correct.

My apologies.

[des]

One always likes to hear this (You are correct. :-)) LOL!
Apology accepted.

--des

Originally Posted by Mestemia

You are absolutely correct.

My apologies.

[kadzbiz]

Originally Posted by des

.....OTOH, I would guess that the ones you know about are less a threat than the ones you don't know of........

I would totally disagree with you here des. Most victims of sexual abuse know the perpetrator well.

[des]

I think my comments were taken a bit out of context. But that isn't really what the OP was about. Go ahead and reread the OP. That's what this is about. This is not a debate forum. Yikes guys.

--des

Originally Posted by kadzbiz

I would totally disagree with you here des. Most victims of sexual abuse know the perpetrator well.

[kadzbiz]

Originally Posted by des

I think my comments were taken a bit out of context. But that isn't really what the OP was about. Go ahead and reread the OP. That's what this is about. This is not a debate forum. Yikes guys.--des

I saw a point and addressed it. Perhaps you can keep the OP more specific next time. If it you're wanting a comment about the guy's attendance to the church, well, c'mon, here's a guy who is seeking salvation and wants acceptance by the church, who are obligated, aren't they not, to take in people seeking salvation? If the church is too concerned about his presence becasue they can't accept him on face value, they surely can't make restrictions on his attendance, so tell him he's not welcome and find another church. You're either a christian or you're not. If you're unsure about what you should do, ask yourself what God, or Jesus, would do. I think the answer is simple.

I'm not a church goer myself, so I know exactly what my decision would be.

[lilithu]

Originally Posted by kadzbiz

I saw a point and addressed it. Perhaps you can keep the OP more specific next time. If it you're wanting a comment about the guy's attendance to the church, well, c'mon, here's a guy who is seeking salvation and wants acceptance by the church, who are obligated, aren't they not, to take in people seeking salvation? If the church is too concerned about his presence becasue they can't accept him on face value, they surely can't make restrictions on his attendance, so tell him he's not welcome and find another church. You're either a christian or you're not. If you're unsure about what you should do, ask yourself what God, or Jesus, would do. I think the answer is simple.

I'm not a church goer myself, so I know exactly what my decision would be.

And do you know which forum you are in?

A non-church goer coming into our forums and giving us "advice" on how our churches are supposed to function.

[kadzbiz]

Originally Posted by lilithu

And do you know which forum you are in?
A non-church goer coming into our forums and giving us "advice" on how our churches are supposed to function.

Oh lilithu, thy sword has plunged deep within my heart and mortally wounded me. I was of the belief that this forum was open to all; to learn, to comment, to "advise". I wasn't telling a church how to function. I was suggesting they (the undecided church goers in this case) search their Christian heart and let their teachings make up their mind. I've been told that the bible holds all the answers. I have just finished reading it and find that statement a little to hard to swallow, but Christians like you should find the answer easy, I'm sure, for you have studied it more thoroughly than I.