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#1
05-27-2007, 07:31 AM
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Where are YOUR Laws written?
Jeremiah 31:33 "This is the covenant I will make with the house of Israel
after that time," declares the LORD. "I will put my law in their minds and write it on their hearts. I will be their God, and they will be my people. -NIV This passage is quoted twice by the author of Hebrews in chapters 8 and 10. But really, what does this mean to YOU? Are God's rules written on your heart or do you accept a "higher version" in terms of a manuscript or church dogma? Does your understanding of the scriptures and of God supersede anyone else's understanding? This was prompted by a discourse where I saw the NT used as a "Rule Book" rather than in "Inspiration".
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#2
05-27-2007, 08:15 AM
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Hi, I've no idea where this came from so I'm just typing my own thing. Romans 1&2 says it too, that God wrote His laws in our heart. That is our conscience, meaning 'with knowledge'. When we do something wrong, we know it. We can become hardened or decieved even to the point that we call good bad and bad good, but we all have a conscience. This conscience along with the creation showing forth the handiwork of a Creator, teaches everybody something of absolute importance. Anyone in the world, having never read a scripture or heard a sermon has some of the 'light of Christ' which 'lighteth all men' (Jn 1). By these 2 things we all can know we sometimes (well, alot) do wrong, and can then ask the Creator to forgive us. Even without ever hearing of Christ, anyone has this ability to know there is a God and to know when we do wrong and to be able to ask forgiveness, and of course anyone who cries to the Lord, He hears and forgives. Ok, 'nuff said.
Peace and grace Mike
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#3
05-27-2007, 08:36 AM
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It is my opinion that quite a few Christians have exchanged one set of written laws for yet another set of written laws. Rather than use the Spirit and the laws written on their hearts, they try to codify the New Testament into another rule book.
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#4
05-27-2007, 08:42 AM
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Quote:
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And thus I clothe my naked villainy
With old odd ends stolen forth from holy writ And seem a saint when most I play the devil. - Richard III If you want to catch a fish, don't follow a chicken.
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#5
05-27-2007, 09:23 AM
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The idea that there are "Church Laws" really intrigues me. The concept of "Freedom" is so integral to Christianity that I find these to be anathema.
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Reach me at NetDoc@ScubaBoard.com or on www.ScubaBoard.com.
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#6
05-27-2007, 09:27 AM
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I am not especially into laws but if other people need them I won't wimper too loudly.
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It is true that the early bird gets the worm, however, it is the second mouse, that gets the cheese.
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05-27-2007, 10:17 AM
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"The Tao that can be talked about is not the true Tao. The name that can be named is not the eternal Name." - Tao Te Ching, first two sentences.
So much for scripture as ultimate authority. "Taoists believe that (1) there is a way the world should be, a way that, in some deep sense, it is; (2) human beings can understand this and need to have and follow such knowledge if they and they world are to exist in harmony...Most early Chinese thinkers shared similar beliefs, but Taoists are distinct in claiming that the Way is not codifiable, indeed is ineffable. Taoists thus are metaphysical and ethical realists, but epistemological sceptics of an unusual sort, being language sceptics. Taoists further deny that one can strive successfully to attain the Way; Taoist self-cultivation is a process not of accumulation but of paring away. One must unweave the social fabric, forsake one's cultural conditioning, and abandon rational thought, to be led instead by one's tzu jan (spontaneous) inclinations. With a hsu (tenuous mind), one then will perceive the li (pattern) of the cosmos and live by wu wei (non-action/harmony)." - Cambridge Dictionary of Philosophy So the classical Taoist position could simply be put that if God has written laws somewhere that we are to follow they aren't going to be in a book or a particular religion but buried deep within us. Further, we can only live by such laws when we admit that we do not and can not know God and leave behind attempts to grasp the divine. Its a position I agree with even if I find it hard to put into practice.
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"Do not be afraid of falling into emptiness. Falling into emptiness is not so bad.." - Layman P'ang
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#8
05-27-2007, 10:47 AM
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You know it!
I AM the Law.
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#9
05-27-2007, 11:56 AM
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My religion and Title... include the word heretic.
so you can see that I am not into laws.
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Blessed are those who bring peace, they shall be children of God
Amen! Truly I say to you: Gather in my name. I am with you.
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#10
05-27-2007, 02:59 PM
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