Was God Created In the Big Bang? (eternal, verse)

[mr.guy]

Originally Posted by su

Your knowledge is completely dependant on others to tell you what is, and they're guessing.

I don't understand...would we be MORE correct if we just made some stuff up?

[Super Universe]

Originally Posted by mr.guy

I don't understand...would we be MORE correct if we just made some stuff up?

Probably about the same.

[mr.guy]

Originally Posted by Super Universe

Probably about the same.

I bet in a past life you were a career counsellor.

[Fragmentia]

Originally Posted by Super Universe

Plenty of evidence that everything in the universe was created in the same event? Umm, where's your evidence that explains that which gives something life?
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Your knowledge is completely dependant on others to tell you what is, and they're guessing.

I'm sorry, aren't you discussing God Energy here?
Perhaps you could suggest a better method of research on this topic than listening to the theories of others?
Do you know of any good books on the topic?
I would assume the authors of said books, were guessing.
Revelations aside, when do you suppose the time will come when we are able to stop guessing?
How much science will it take to solidify one's theories on that which is generally assumed to be unscientific?

[Tiberius]

Originally Posted by Super Universe

Star Trek can't compare to the multi-verse.

Okay, here's a claim that something called the multiverse exists.

Define multiverse, then produce the testable, repeatable and verifiable sources that indicate that the multiverse as you described it exists.

There is no evidence to suggest that only part of the universe was created in the big bang? How come each time the scientists increase their resolution they find more stars and more galaxies? There's so much more out there, we can only see a fraction of it all.

*cough* Cosmic background radiation. Look it up.

Plenty of evidence that everything in the universe was created in the same event? Umm, where's your evidence that explains that which gives something life?

But the components of life were created in the Big Bang. You can't say that they weren't just because they were in a different form.

Calling a dimension higher or lower is a relative term depending on your point of reference. There are many ways to name the dimensions, the typical human measurement is severely lacking. The best way is to number the change in density outward from heaven which is at the center and is a non-dimension, non-space/time.

Care to support this claim with a legitimate source? And I mean a source that provides testable evidence.

Dimensions do not contain energy? Hehe, you are quite stuck in the severely lacking human explanations of the dimensions. I'm not talking about width, then width/height, then width/height/depth. I'm talking about densities of God energy or string density.

Care to show me how "God Energy" is anything other than a made up word? And how energy is also a dimension?

Your knowledge is completely dependant on others to tell you what is, and they're guessing.

Care to show me that Stephen Hawking is guessing about what he has studied for his whole life?

[JayHawes]

Okay allow me to break it down. God is creation, he is the source of all things created. The "Big Bang" is only a theory, however a "big Bang" without the pre-exixtance of God would be inccorect, for physical to exist, physical must be created. However God is not physical, he is spiritual and beyond our own universe. He is the source of creation, not the product of it.

Isa 45:18For this is the word of the Lord who made the heavens; he is God; the maker and designer of the earth; who made it not to be a waste, but as a living-place for man: I am the Lord, and there is no other.

Ex 3:14And God said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto you.

[Inky]

Originally Posted by rojse

Just to try and confuse the situation somewhat, some physicists believe that this Big Bang is one of a series of Big Bangs - they believe that the Universe expands and contracts endlessly.

Yep. It's unresolved so far whether the universe will get to a certain size and then contract back on itself in a "Big Crunch", or whether it'll keep expanding until everything gets cold and dilute and just hangs around in dead space. If you've seen the debates on "dark matter", it's mostly important because if dark matter exists that supposedly brings us to enough mass to expect a Big Crunch, which is the more exciting option.

Maybe the real meaning of life is that the universe is like an episode of Survivor, and the last one standing at the Big Crunch gets to be God the next go-round.

[Super Universe]

Originally Posted by Fragmentia

I'm sorry, aren't you discussing God Energy here?
Perhaps you could suggest a better method of research on this topic than listening to the theories of others?
Do you know of any good books on the topic?
I would assume the authors of said books, were guessing.
Revelations aside, when do you suppose the time will come when we are able to stop guessing?
How much science will it take to solidify one's theories on that which is generally assumed to be unscientific?

A better method of research? Well, it entails quite a lot of work on your part. It includes meditation, dream interpretation, self analyzation including emotion tracking, and logic.

You don't necessarily have to do all of these it's just that I don't know which one will work best for you. Usually some kind of combination of each works best.

All the information about everything is freely available to all, we just have to learn how to unlock the files. To do that requires that all previous information on a specific area has been found and understood by the person and a desire for the knowledge must be present.

I could suggest some good books, but I won't. Why would I waste my time pushing sand uphill when it's just going to come back down again?


Will there come a time when we are able to stop guessing? Doubtfull, but likely we won't have to guess as much. Think of the most intelligent animal there is and try to teach them everything we know. What you get is a dolphin who jumps in the air and rolls over for fish or an ape who understands maybe 100 words.

Just like us, they have to evolve before you can get them to comprehend anything more.

[Super Universe]

Originally Posted by Tiberius

Okay, here's a claim that something called the multiverse exists.

Define multiverse, then produce the testable, repeatable and verifiable sources that indicate that the multiverse as you described it exists.



*cough* Cosmic background radiation. Look it up.



But the components of life were created in the Big Bang. You can't say that they weren't just because they were in a different form.



Care to support this claim with a legitimate source? And I mean a source that provides testable evidence.



Care to show me how "God Energy" is anything other than a made up word? And how energy is also a dimension?



Care to show me that Stephen Hawking is guessing about what he has studied for his whole life?

My definition of the multi-verse is this: It is "All that is".

I don't have to produce any proof of the multi-verse. If you don't wish to believe it, then don't believe it. It changes nothing.

Please provide your proof that there is nothing beyond cosmic background radiation including other dimensions. Make sure it's testable, repeatable, and verifiable. Cough...

The components of life created in the big bang? Energy from a higher dimension was released and as it moved into this lower frequency dimension it condensed into what we call matter. But still there is something missing, something your scientists still don't understand. What made those components come to life? You won't find it in your "big bang".

Support my claim of dimensions and heaven? You made a claim, I countered with a claim. If you wish to provide proof that my claim isn't correct then we are all ears. Uh, good luck with that.

Show you how "God energy" is anything other than a made up word? Call it String Theory if you like, it doesn't matter. Or are you also going to deny string theory? How energy is dimensional? EMR energy is not dimensional, string theory energy is. It doesn't just inhabit dimensions, it creates them.

Stephen Hawking just guessing? Ask him about dark matter, he'll start guessing really quick...

Ask any scientist if they've ever created something and they'll go on and on about how they "created" this particle or that machine, then point out that they didn't actually create anything they simply assembled or disassembled something. Then ask them again if they've ever truly created something, they'll start guessing really quick.