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Old 05-29-2007, 12:29 PM
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The universe was created by a creator, God. God was not created, He has always existed, 'His goings forth are from everlasting'. The creation DID have an origin, it has not always existed, and was created by God.
Prove it... I have yet to hear a satisfactory answer as to why God can exist without a creator, yet the Universe cannot.
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So... who made the big bang, then?

And how did this big bang manage to make an omniprescent, omnipotent, and omnisicent being?

He'd have to be invincible too - the temperatures during the big bang process ranged from a fraction of a degree above absolute zero, and millions of degrees.
that would be exactly my question, and I don't think there's a definitive answer. If you look at things from an 'either/or ' standpoint, it would have been necessary for God to have been there to oversee the big bang, and not the other way around. If you choose to look at things from a scientific or religious standpoint, I think something would need to be there for the big bang to occur. That's just instinct!
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The big bang the scientists talk about was not the beginning of the universe. It was only a beginning of a part of the universe. There is much, much, more out there.

The big bang was like a door being opened from the higher dimensions. Lower density energy flowed down from the higher dimensions and condensed into a more dense form to create all the matter we see. Over time this matter (energy conserved) changes into active energy (EMR).
You've been watching too much Star trek.

There is no evidence at all to suggest that only a part of the universe was created in the BB.

And there is plenty of evidence that everything in the universe was created in the same event.

And dimensions don't work like that. Dimensions are not "higher" or "lower" than other dimensions. If you still don't accept this, please tell me, which is the higher dimension, height or width? And what are you basing that conclusion on?

Energy does not have density.

Dimensions do not contain energy. if you disagree with this, please tell me how to get energy out of width.

Energy does not condense, as it does not have any density.

Your knowledge of science is sorely lacking.
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On noticing your dimensional references and sitting here with all 13….will try to keep to what you can research, yet also in correct terminology of what I saw in my NDE and commandments…..

1)is a single strand, quark or quantum strand …(see string theory, yet science is baffled)….these are Spirits i.e. souls….like American Indians should be explaining….
2)Unite 2 strings can make images and so 2d images flat.
3)Add a vibration to it as 3rd is sound and we have space added to our object.



Yet in terms of getting energy from a single dimension that is possible, yet if they do, they May also set fire to the known reality in the process, unless they learn to go above the dimension or around it first, to put out the fire they May start.
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The all creator manifested himself with a single thought. How much noise was made during this event is nothing but a by-product, not the reason for the event.
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Prove it... I have yet to hear a satisfactory answer as to why God can exist without a creator, yet the Universe cannot.
God is not an equation , how empowering to an individual who thinks they can figure out God .
He reveals himself one way and one way only ,through faith.
If you never heard a gospel message or placed your hands on a bible,but only had the sun ,moon and stars, God says in Rom 1 ,you will be without excuse on judgement day.
"Just from what is created man will be without excuse,since creation God's invisible attributes are clearly seem being understood by the things that are made"
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Just to try and confuse the situation somewhat, some physicists believe that this Big Bang is one of a series of Big Bangs - they believe that the Universe expands and contracts endlessly. But then, physicists will believe in anything.

It still does not explain what created the original Big Bang, if true.

Second point - at the beginning of the Big Bang, all the matter in the universe was crunched up into one point, so the Universe was quite small at that time. If God existed at that moment, would he have been of microscopic size, and if so, how would he have become bigger? I don't know of any religions that worship God as a microscopic one.
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If God existed at that moment, would he have been of microscopic size, and if so, how would he have become bigger? I don't know of any religions that worship God as a microscopic one.
I must have missed it. How tall is God?
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You've been watching too much Star trek.

There is no evidence at all to suggest that only a part of the universe was created in the BB.

And there is plenty of evidence that everything in the universe was created in the same event.

And dimensions don't work like that. Dimensions are not "higher" or "lower" than other dimensions. If you still don't accept this, please tell me, which is the higher dimension, height or width? And what are you basing that conclusion on?

Energy does not have density.

Dimensions do not contain energy. if you disagree with this, please tell me how to get energy out of width.

Energy does not condense, as it does not have any density.

Your knowledge of science is sorely lacking.
Star Trek can't compare to the multi-verse.

There is no evidence to suggest that only part of the universe was created in the big bang? How come each time the scientists increase their resolution they find more stars and more galaxies? There's so much more out there, we can only see a fraction of it all.

Plenty of evidence that everything in the universe was created in the same event? Umm, where's your evidence that explains that which gives something life?

Calling a dimension higher or lower is a relative term depending on your point of reference. There are many ways to name the dimensions, the typical human measurement is severely lacking. The best way is to number the change in density outward from heaven which is at the center and is a non-dimension, non-space/time.

Dimensions do not contain energy? Hehe, you are quite stuck in the severely lacking human explanations of the dimensions. I'm not talking about width, then width/height, then width/height/depth. I'm talking about densities of God energy or string density.

Your knowledge is completely dependant on others to tell you what is, and they're guessing.

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