Hell,a geographical destination,or a state of the mind (Jesus, punishment)

[roli]

Hell,is it really a geographical place or destination where we will ultimately find ourselves if we do not receive Christ as Savior.
Or is it a state of the mind where we expereince eternal torment through such feelings as anguish ,remorse,regret,lonliness,abandonment,isolation and separation of God.
Either way it seems a terrible position to find one's self in.
We could have positive thoughts and really really believe there is no such place ,but will that change reality if it's existence is true
Maybe it's not even a concern from your perspective,but if there is a chance that man in his unbelief could be wrong ,where is this place called hell,in the mind or on the map
Jesus mentions hell many times,either he is truthful or he is a liar or a lunatic

Hell =gheh'-en-nah Hell is the place of the future punishment call "Gehenna" or "Gehenna of fire". This was originally the valley of Hinnom, south of Jerusalem, where the filth and dead animals of the city were cast out and burned; a fit symbol of the wicked and their future destruction.

Hell = hah'-dace name Hades or Pluto, the god of the lower regions Orcus, the nether world, the realm of the dead later use of this word: the grave, death, hell

Hell = tar-tar-o'-o
the name of the subterranean region, doleful and dark, regarded by the ancient Greeks as the abode of the wicked dead, where they suffer punishment for their evil deeds; it answers to Gehenna of the Jews
to thrust down to Tartarus, to hold captive in Tartarus

Hell = hebrew = Sh@'owl sheol, underworld, grave, hell, pit the underworld
Sheol - the OT designation for the abode of the dead place of no return
without praise of God wicked sent there for punishment righteous not abandoned to it
of the place of exile (fig) of extreme degradation in sin

Hell is destruction
Mat 10:28 And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.
Mat 18:9 And if thine eye offend thee, pluck it out, and cast [it] from thee: it is better for thee to enter into life with one eye, rather than having two eyes to be cast into hell fire.

God sends angels to hell
2Pe 2:4 For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast [them] down to hell, and delivered [them] into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment;

Hell a place that can be felt and experienced with human senses
Luke 16:19 "There was a certain rich man who was clothed in purple and fine linen and fared sumptuously every day. 20 But there was a certain beggar named Lazarus, full of sores, who was laid at his gate, 21 desiring to be fed with *the crumbs which fell from the rich man's table. Moreover the dogs came and licked his sores. 22 So it was that the beggar died, and was carried by the angels to Abraham's bosom. The rich man also died and was buried. 23 And being in torments in Hades, he lifted up his eyes and saw Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom.
24 "Then he cried and said, 'Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus that he may dip the tip of his finger in water and cool my tongue; for I am tormented in this flame.' 25 But Abraham said, 'Son, remember that in your lifetime you received your good things, and likewise Lazarus evil things; but now he is comforted and you are tormented. 26 And besides all this, between us and you there is a great gulf fixed, so that those who want to pass from here to you cannot, nor can those from there pass to us.'
27 "Then he said, 'I beg you therefore, father, that you would send him to my father's house, 28 for I have five brothers, that he may testify to them, lest they also come to this place of torment.' 29 Abraham said to him, 'They have Moses and the prophets; let them hear them.' 30 And he said, 'No, father Abraham; but if one goes to them from the dead, they will repent.' 31 But he said to him, 'If they do not hear Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded though one rise from the dead.'"

[zenzero]

Friend,
All the descriptions about HELL is really a hell.
When the MIND itself is at complete REST/SILENCE/PEACE is HEAVEN and when the mind is actively dominating it is HELL.
Love & rgds

[UnTheist]

Hell is a state of mind. God wouldn't punish His own creation for choosing the "Wrong" faith. He knows better than that

[ChristineES]

What is called "Hell" in the bible is actually a word for a garbage heap that continuously burned. I personally do not believe in a place of eternal torment, as that does not fit with the rest of God's and Jesus' teachings. What was meant was that chaff of wheat is not eaten and not used is burned. It is a symbol of an eternal cutting off from God, which is always the person's choice and not God's.

[Tigress]

I believe it's a state of mind, but apparently it's a geographical location(s), as well. Observe:

Places named (courtesy of Wikipedia):

• Hell, Michigan
• Hell, Lånke, Norway
  • Hell station, a train station at Hell, Lånke, Norway
• Hell, California, a place in Riverside County.
• Hell, Grand Cayman, a place in the Cayman Islands
• Hell (crater), a lunar crater named after Maximilian Hell
• Hells Canyon, a canyon created by the Snake River in the United States
• Hell Creek, a place in Montana notable for Cretaceous dinosaur fossils
• Hell Gate, a narrow tidal channel in the East River in New York City
  • Hell Gate Bridge, a steel arch railroad bridge over this channel
• Hells Gate State Park, a state park in Idaho
• Hell Hole Gorge National Park, a national park in Queensland, Australia
• Hell's Kitchen, a neighborhood in New York City

[roli]

Originally Posted by L a t e r a l u s

Hell is a state of mind. God wouldn't punish His own creation for choosing the "Wrong" faith. He knows better than that

When I said a state of mind, I did'nt mean it as a present state of mind,in regards to, I don't think hell exists,type of thing.
I mean it will be,if hell is a state of the mind and not a location, according to scripture, a very troubling eternity in the faculty of the mind where one will apprently be extremely mentally and emotionally afflicted with the sense of remorse, anguish and suffering experiencing feelings of regret for not choosing Christ as Savior.
The whole gospel message from Jesus stand point is that of repent and believe the gospel of Jesus,not the gospel of man or philosophy or rational thought
Any faith according to Jesus that does not believe and receive Christ as Savior and accept the fact that Jesus came in the flesh to reconcile man and redeem him from sin is not of God.According to God he is doomed !!!!!
Someone, according to Jesus may have various believes and faiths in other deities or gods but lack the salvation and redemption God provides and requires to enter heaven.
The only way man will be received by God the father,is through faith in the Christ.

Your remark,"God knows better than that",is correct ,he knows better than to intrust man to finding their own way to him,the whole purpose for sending Christ was because man missed it in their opportunity to walk right before God,that is why he provided a sacrifice to atone for man,but even in that man refuses and chooses their own paths
Act 4:12 Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.
Jhn 3:36He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.
Jhn 14:6Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
1Ti 2:5For [there is] one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;
1Jo 5:12He that hath the Son hath life; [and] he that hath not the Son of God hath not life.

It's man choice to choose in whom they believe,it's God choice to make his way the only way
Faith in humanism,evolution,science will not be suffcient means to be pardoned by God, according to scripture

[roli]

Originally Posted by ChristineES

What is called "Hell" in the bible is actually a word for a garbage heap that continuously burned. I personally do not believe in a place of eternal torment, as that does not fit with the rest of God's and Jesus' teachings. What was meant was that chaff of wheat is not eaten and not used is burned. It is a symbol of an eternal cutting off from God, which is always the person's choice and not God's.

Go to one of those places and tell me if you would enjoy spending a month camped out in the middle of such a ruin and that is a small comparison of what eternity without God may be like.
Why else would he capture hell in such terms,to lead us down some ,illusive path giving us some rendition of a place that does'nt exist.
2Pe 2:4 For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast [them] down to hell, and delivered [them] into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment;
The Lord knoweth how to deliver the godly out of temptations, and to reserve the unjust unto the day of judgment to be punished:
When the Holy spirit is taken from the earth, meaning God's hand of mercy and grace is lifeted,which I believe is the only thing keeping this world in tacked,it will be beyond words to describe.
Mind you man has free reign UNTIL THAT TIME to create an enviroment such as what we presently live in.
I agree it is man's choice ,but the consquences of refusing Chirst are what Jesus teaches and emphasizes.

[Darkness]

Hell = hebrew = Sh@'owl sheol, underworld, grave, hell, pit the underworld
Sheol - the OT designation for the abode of the dead place of no return
without praise of God wicked sent there for punishment righteous not abandoned to it
of the place of exile (fig) of extreme degradation in sin

This description is wrong. Your own Old Testament tells you what Sheol (Hades, they mean the same thing) is.

Ecclesiastes 9:10 (King James Version)
Whatsoever thy hand findeth to do, do it with thy might; for there is no work, nor device, nor knowledge, nor wisdom, in the grave[SHEOL], whither thou goest.

[ChristineES]

No one ever said it would be nice to be separated from God. I don't believe I am separated from God, so why would I spend one moment separated from God?
Roli, I am not criticizing you in any sense, but I still believe it is a state of mind and not a real, actual place. I know all the verses and that is what I came up with.

A side note:
I don't believe in scaring nonbelievers with the story of Hell, Jesus did not do that. He only seemed to be angry at the Pharisees, who followed the Law yet forgot about compassion and thought themselves perfectly righteous but they worshipped the Law and did not appear to worship the God who made the Law. I have seen Christians do the same, they worship the Bible and what it says, but they seem to forget about The God (and Jesus) who made the Bible possible in the first place.
Jesus preached compassion, love, and faith. He did not teach His disciples about Hell continuosly.
When teaching others about Christ, try to teach those things and don't go on and on about Hell. I find that is what most of the nonbelievers don't like and it turns them away rather than the other way around which is what we want.