Do You Think You Would Regret..... (Jesus, punishment, mystic, choices)

[roli]

Originally Posted by Scuba Pete

I pray that my posts are never likened to his. God is a God of order... not like this.

Order is what I am discussing here, please enlighten me as to how I have made God out of order

[UnTheist]

With the God you're describing, the only action that sends you to Hell is not believing. Other sins can be forgiven when you die and face God

[roli]

Originally Posted by MaddLlama

Well, the god that you're presenting to us certainly seems to delight in sending the non-believers to hell. At the very least, he doesn't seem like he would be sad or upset by having to tell someone to "go to hell".
I don't, however, believe that is the way the Christian god truly is - I just think you lack the ability to describe and present him correctly.

How have you extracted that out of what I have said,God does not delight ,by their choices,in sending people to hell
Many here as well, are presenting God in their own logical or illogical manner,not that that is wrong ,at least to them,but that it is not the way he is perceived in the bible or in a living personal expereince with him.

[MaddLlama]

Roli, if when you die, you were to come face to face with Hades, or Badb....what would you do?
Like I said before, this is a hypothetical situation, so please indulge me and extent the courtsey of suspending your belief for one minute and consider this question (just like you're asking the rest of us to).

[roli]

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quote=`PaWz]With the God you're describing, the only action that sends you to Hell is not believing. Other sins can be forgiven when you die and face God

I am only stating what God declares in his word,as you have said,as this is a theolgical forum, maybe I'm wrong ,but if people want to add their spin, that is their prerogative.

We must question the story logic of having an all-knowing all-powerful God, who creates faulty Humans, and then blames them for his own mistakes

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Again we were given free will,can you understand what that means.
As are your children if you have any,how logical does that sound for them to blame you when they break the law and end up in jail. Or something worse ,who's fault is that,come on,blame the parents all you want but who put them in the jail cell.

[UnTheist]

Originally Posted by roli

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I am only stating what God declares in his word,as you have said,as this is a theolgical forum, maybe I'm wrong ,but if people want to add their spin, that is their prerogative.

Again we were given free will,can you understand what that means.
As are your children if you have any,how logical does that sound for them to blame you when they break the law and end up in jail. Or something worse ,who's fault is that,come on,blame the parents all you want but who put them in the jail cell.

I am saying there is no legitimate point to burn one in Hell for infinity when the person's actions were finite. If anything, you should only be punished to the amount that you sinned. ETERNAL Hell is not necessary.

[roli]

Originally Posted by MaddLlama

Roli, if when you die, you were to come face to face with Hades, or Badb....what would you do?
Like I said before, this is a hypothetical situation, so please indulge me and extent the courtsey of suspending your belief for one minute and consider this question (just like you're asking the rest of us to).

Remember what forum you are in "Theological Concepts "
But in answer to your question, I will not , because I am arrogant ,and so self assured on my own merit,but because his spirit witnesses to my spirit that I am his son and if a son then an heir to eternal life.
As a christian I will escape the eternal judgement.
I will however be judged for rewards.

...but if hypothetically I was sentenced to hell,I would be as regretful and remorseful as the next person,maybe not as many on this forum.
As many seem to have a rebutal of sorts in store when they stand before God
Im pretty sure I would be speechless refraining from ,blame shifting,harsh comments and sarcastic remarks to God,but regretful that I made wrong choices.
I would hope that my cries for mercy would be heard and not drowned out by the horrific sounds around me.
I believe I would know where I went wrong and at that point know that there is no hope,but only despair.
That knowledge would have come from what the word had declared.
But I have the assurance I am going to heaven because of the spirit of God within me

[roli]

Originally Posted by `PaWz

I am saying there is no legitimate point to burn one in Hell for infinity when the person's actions were finite. If anything, you should only be punished to the amount that you sinned. ETERNAL Hell is not necessary.

I agree with your feelings,but could it be possible we just don't comprehend the severity of our trespasses against God

[UnTheist]

Originally Posted by roli

I agree with your feelings,but could it be possible we just don't comprehend the severity of our trespasses against God

I believe we comprehend them just fine.

Your greatest 'tresspass' as you see it, is not believing. But that's the problem.

I would like to know what harm would be done if we didn't believe. What if I did all things that Christianity (or many other religions) calls for: Peace, Love, Kindness, Understanding, doing good deeds, ect ect. What more is needed, then? Believing in God doesn't seem to do anything.

[PureX]

Originally Posted by roli

I agree with your feelings,but could it be possible we just don't comprehend the severity of our trespasses against God

Excuse me for intruding, but this strikes me as one of those "what if" propositions. I mean, the possibilities of what we don't comprehend are basically endless. And the repercussions of our not knowing what we don't know could be anything. But I don't know where this line of thought can lead us. It's infinite, and therefor pointless.

We're stuck having to go with what we think we do know, because what we don't know is basically endless, and therefor meaningless. So even though we certainly could always be wrong, so what? It's not like we can do anything about that. All we can do is the best we can with what information we have. If that's not enough, then we're screwed, and there's nothing we can do about it.

This is why I think honesty is far more important than righteousness.