Do You Think You Would Regret..... (Jesus, punishment, mystic, choices)

[MaddLlama]

Originally Posted by Scuba Pete

<cough cough> Uh, I am OFTEN found quoting scripture. I don't think many would consider me a legalist.

No, but you can make a post, talk about scripture, and form an opinion without doing what Roli does: make a general statement, and then copy/paste a list of quotes taken out of context that may possibly or not relate to the statement made.
Just looking at the posts made by just about every other Christian on the forum, and Roli, there is a big difference. Every single one of his posts sounds like a bad regurgitation of an evangelistic tract. I would hope you don't see your posts that way

[roli]

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quote=zombieharlot]God's love is supposedly greater than what any human can give. But I can't imagine any parent who truly loves their child to send their child to hell. As far as I'm concerned, true love isn't conditional. And for a god to send some of his children to hell while saving others seems like a very conditional thing to me. So, I don't think His love is all that great.

2Pe 3:9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.
When you raise a child a particular way and he veers off that course because of a lack of adherence,submission and obedience to what you instructed him ,did you fail or was it the childs fault.
At what point is a person ,via child become responsible for their actions and therefore set the course for their own destruction.
I understand your point,but do you understand God's
By the way, there is that blame shifting I mentioned else where.
He does'nt send anyone to hell ,we chose where we go here on earth
Maybe you just don't have a full understanding of this yet.
Put your life in a video presentation and sit down and watch ,is there anything that you might not want God to view,not to mention yourself seeing it over again
Oh yes, you expressed from your logical view point of how you see it ,but ,have you left room for your part of ignorance regarding,who he is, what he has done and why.
The very reason any of us are still standing despite our hurlling insults,disrespect,irreverence, and dissatisfaction at God ,not to mention our pride,arrogance and self righteousness, liberated views and expressions of how he has or how he should run heaven and the earth
Psa 103:10 He hath not dealt with us after our sins; nor rewarded us according to our iniquities.
Psa 130:3If thou, LORD, shouldest mark iniquities, O Lord, who shall stand?
Is it possible that you just don't have any idea of what you have actually done in regards to sin.

If I end up in hell it's obviously because I'm defective, whether I rewired myself to be that way or not. And if I do not meet the conditional standards that God has set for all humanity to live by, then I will gladly be tossed away with all the other human scraps.

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Yes,we are all defective because of sin,but God made a way to change that,if one refuses to take the appropriate action who's responsible.
I f one refuses to follow God they inturn chose their own course of action according to their free will,they must also anticipate the outcome ,so a child who wilfully rebels and disobeys.
Is that a parents choice ,of course not ,come on,so it is with God.
But ignorance is far from bliss.
Have you actually attempted to meet the conditional standards that God requires.
Do you actually know what they are ,maybe that is the question at hand.

[roli]

Originally Posted by None

I don't think Hell would be very useful to God. It seems like He just wants some revenge for not believing in Him.

You missed it !!!

[Random]

The Judgement of God is written in my soul: and yours. We Judge ourselves and get what we deserve according to the Law of Karma. Transcend it, and you will find yourself beyond choice in a realm where you Belong. There is no higher desire: no greater forgiveness, no fuller compassion.

[UnTheist]

Originally Posted by roli

You missed it !!!

Would you care to explain what he missed?

[Scuba Pete]

Originally Posted by MaddLlama

I would hope you don't see your posts that way

I pray that my posts are never likened to his. God is a God of order... not like this.

[roli]

Originally Posted by Papersock

I would be very, very surprised and maybe mumble a half-hearted "sorry," with a shrug.

But since the Bible says that every knee will bow, does that mean God will make some people bow?

Well ,you know the bible,he means every knee will bow and every tongue will confess that Jesus is Lord.
Regardless of rank and position,race or creed,sex or colour
Hitler,Saddam,kings and princes,the rich,the weak will all,according to scripture bow in submission and subjection.

[roli]

Originally Posted by `PaWz

Would you care to explain what he missed?

He's not out for revenge,he's not a dictator,he does'nt enjoy seeing people punished,as many seem to express God is not laughing or happy for judging people and by their choices sending them to hell.

[Wandered Off]

Originally Posted by roli

The very reason any of us are still standing despite our hurlling insults,disrespect,irreverence, and dissatisfaction at God ,not to mention our pride,arrogance and self righteousness, liberated views and expressions of how he has or how he should run heaven and the earth

I think you misinterpret the target of all the dissatisfaction. I suspect that most of the time those statements you interpret as insults toward God are actually insults directed at what we perceive as man-made doctrines, and are not aimed at God at all.

God is not doctrine. God is not the stupid ideas humans created. Surely God would understand the distinction in our hearts.