Do You Think You Would Regret..... (Jesus, punishment, mystic, choices)

[MysticSang'ha]

Originally Posted by roli

God does say that there wil be no excuse at judgment day
Rom 1:20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, [even] his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:
See, the logic of observation around us is part of what God uses to confirm his existence and his person

How does "making excuses" have anything to do with my response? I am more concerned with God's state of mind, not my own, were I to find myself in the reality that you perceive. That isn't an excuse. That is me with the intention of continuing the practice of loving kindness. Could you expound on your reply to my post?



Peace,
Mystic

[YmirGF]

Originally Posted by MysticSang'ha

How does "making excuses" have anything to do with my response? I am more concerned with God's state of mind, not my own, were I to find myself in the reality that you perceive. That isn't an excuse. That is me with the intention of continuing the practice of loving kindness. Could you expound on your reply to my post?

I certainly agree Mystic'Heather. I'm such a dork at heart, I'd prolly ask for a phone book and then look up Anger Management classes available in his area. If he didn't need said classes prior to my arrival, it is likely he would afterwards. If Roli is right, I don't pity myself, I pity to poor beggars that follow me in line, lol. YOIKES. "Duck and cover", springs to mind.

[MysticSang'ha]

Originally Posted by YmirGF

I certainly agree Mystic'Heather. I'm such a dork at heart, I'd prolly ask for a phone book and then look up Anger Management classes available in his area. If he didn't need said classes prior to my arrival, it is likely he would afterwards. If Roli is right, I don't pity myself, I pity to poor beggars that follow me in line, lol. YOIKES. "Duck and cover", springs to mind.

On that note, I could also offer something to him that usually works for my husband when he gets frustrated and angry...........


1) Do some push-ups
2) Play some "Rainbow 6 Vegas" on the XBox 360 or another first-person shooter game
3) Take a walk for about an hour
4) Get some headphones and some hard-rock music...........Van Halen gets my husband in a better mood, but whatever floats yer boat



What works for me:
1) Vipassana meditation
2) Playing with the dog
3) Watching the movie Airplane
4) Or anything from Monty Python works, too
5) Listening to the Beastie Boys and cranking up the volume



I'd hate to see God in such a bad mood. Hopefully with a tub of popcorn in hand and laughing to Airplane can help assuage his anger.



"Joey, have you ever seen the inside of a Turkish prison?"
"Ever seen a grown man naked?"




But this is one of my all-time favorite movie dialogues where we get to see Mrs. Cleaver speak jive.



"Randy: Can I get you something?
Second Jive Dude: 'S'mofo butter layin' me to da' BONE! Jackin' me up... tight me!
Randy: I'm sorry, I don't understand.
First Jive Dude: Cutty say 'e can't HANG!
Jive Lady (Mrs. Cleaver): Oh stewardess! I speak jive.
Randy: Oh, good.
Jive Lady: He said that he's in great pain and he wants to know if you can help him.
Randy: All right. Would you tell him to just relax and I'll be back as soon as I can with some medicine?
Jive Lady: Jus' hang loose, blood. She gonna catch ya up on da' rebound on da' med side.
Second Jive Dude: What it is, big mama? My mama no raise no dummies. I dug her rap!
Jive Lady: Cut me some slack, Jack! Chump don' want no help, chump don't GET da' help!
First Jive Dude: Say 'e can't hang, say seven up!
Jive Lady: Jive *** dude don't got no brains anyhow! Hmmph! "




LOL




Hopefully better moods will bring better understanding. It's worth a shot, eh?



Peace,
Mystic

[PureX]

Originally Posted by roli

If you did stand before God the moment you leave this life ,"Do You think you would regret the fact that you spent your life pursuing logic,reason,emperical evidence,refuting the christian theological doctrines ,evidence,historical/geographical studies,the bible,Jesus ,God Heaven,Judgement,hell punishment.
Or would you continue to refute ,justify,excuse yourself before God.
Would you blame God for not following after him because of the hypocracy,all the denominations,the conflict between the christian community,the atrocities of historical religion and so on.......

Or would you be regretful,humble and ashamed that you made the wrong choices.
Would you at that point beg for mercy,or do you think you would submit to his decision of eternal punishment.
What would you do????

No, no, and no. I wouldn't.

My only regret will be that I had lived so full of fear and confusion that I missed so many opportunities to express my love for others. Being logical, and reasonable, and thoughtful is not a regret because it's an expression of my love: it's a way of overcoming my fear and confusion. It's also an expression of faith, because it shows that I trust in the reality (truth) of creation. If you think you're going to shame me for using my mind, and my ability to think clearly and rationally and logically about God or life or myself or my brothers and sisters, well, it ain't gonna work. To be calm, and rational, and skeptical, and reflective, and thoughtful, and to use logic to try and verify my thoughts and ideas, these are some of the things I will be proud of having done. Because these are some of the ways in which I DID express my love for others.

[zombieharlot]

Originally Posted by roli

Is there any particular reason as to why you make such a bold statement
Pro 23:7 For as he thinketh in his heart, so [is] he:

God's love is supposedly greater than what any human can give. But I can't imagine any parent who truly loves their child to send their child to hell. As far as I'm concerned, true love isn't conditional. And for a god to send some of his children to hell while saving others seems like a very conditional thing to me. So, I don't think His love is all that great.

If I end up in hell it's obviously because I'm defective, whether I rewired myself to be that way or not. And if I do not meet the conditional standards that God has set for all humanity to live by, then I will gladly be tossed away with all the other human scraps.

[None]

I don't think Hell would be very useful to God. It seems like He just wants some revenge for not believing in Him.

[Scuba Pete]

Originally Posted by roli

If you did stand before God the moment you leave this life ,"

You remind me of someone's alter ego.

[Kungfuzed]

Originally Posted by lilithu

Jeez louise.
If at the moment you leave this life, you look into the abyss and see that there is nothing there, do you think you think you would regret the fact that you spent your life pursuing your beliefs at the expense of this life?
Or would you continue to justify your beliefs in the face of the abyss.
Or would you be regretful,humble and ashamed that you made the wrong choices.
What would you do????


Your whole scenario requires that people buy into the idea that you are ultimately right. If we actually bought into that we would all be (your kind of) Christian now, wouldn't we?


Whatever happens ar the moment of death I will have no regrets, because I'm trying to live this one precious life as best as I can according to my conscience, and not in the hopes of gaining reward or avoiding punishment.

Awww man! I was just about to frubal you but I can't cause I already frubaled you earlier for helping me with my sudoku puzzle. Can somebody frubal her for me?

I totally agree. If you live your life the best way you know how, what is there to regret? If my consience is clean then what power does God or Satan have over me? I can live my life in peace without fear of either of them.