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Old 02-21-2007, 05:25 PM
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A fair question.

If God truly exists, and he truly feels suffering for knowing that I did not realize him as my Father at my judgement, and he is saddened by my punishment..........then the truly correct and selfless way to view it would be for me to feel compassion for him and for his position.

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God does say that there wil be no excuse at judgment day
Rom 1:20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, [even] his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:
See, the logic of observation around us is part of what God uses to confirm his existence and his person
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Old 02-21-2007, 05:31 PM
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Don't worry, as I know Buddha sits at the left hand of God, it is more about unconditional love and wisdom, which doesn't necessarily go along with any father concepts (sort of degrades Good to our level).
You don't know enough about the God of the bible as he is holy ,righteous and perfect,sin cannot enter his presence, by his very nature,but in saying that he is slow to anger abounding in mercy,not willing that any perish.
He has made a way for us to be declared righteous and accepted
Psa 103:10 He hath not dealt with us after our sins; nor rewarded us according to our iniquities.
Psa 130:3If thou, LORD, shouldest mark iniquities, O Lord, who shall stand?
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Old 02-21-2007, 05:36 PM
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Before Jesus crucifixion he summed up his message for the disciples saying you can tell the righteous from the unrighteous by their works....to feed the hungry, clothe the naked, and generally help those in need. After living a life with the focus devoted mostly on myself, I am now seeing that giving aide to others is necessary and life fulfilling, if in the end I sit in the judgement seat or if I am not.
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If you did stand before God the moment you leave this life ,"Do You think you would regret the fact that you spent your life pursuing logic,reason,emperical evidence,refuting the christian theological doctrines ,evidence,historical/geographical studies,the bible,Jesus ,God Heaven,Judgement,hell punishment.
Or would you continue to refute ,justify,excuse yourself before God.
Would you blame God for not following after him because of the hypocracy,all the denominations,the conflict between the christian community,the atrocities of historical religion and so on.......
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No I would not regret learning all I can about all religions and will never stop looking for truth by any means. I believe this is what God wants of us rather than to blindly accept what others say is correct.

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Excellent verse,God knows the heart and our works ,but it's not so much about what works we do to our fellow man,as our sins are against God first, not our fellow man.
2Cr 7:10 For godly sorrow worketh repentance to salvation not to be repented of: but the sorrow of the world worketh death.
I mean if you broke the law and ended up standing before the judge who excutes justice,he says guilty ,would you see an logical reason to turn and tell him,your honour but I help my fellow man and feed the poor,clothe the naked.
He will say that is good but justice must be served
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I would not be regretful, and i can't imagine i would beg.

God would know exactly why i didn't believe, and He would know that forcing myself to follow a religion i don't believe in would be pointless. He would understand all my thoughts and reasons for believing what i do and if his decision is punishment, then so be it. I can't imagine falling on my knees and saying i'm sorry would change his mind, either He would forgive me or He wouldn't.
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Hey Roli, this is a very loaded question - you are asking us to assume that what we think and believe is wrong, and then give an acount of why we followed those thoughts and beliefs - if i didn't agree with what i thnk and believe, i would have changed them. so quite simply, if i did find myself before the Christian God, i would be polite, but i would not excuse myself for my beliefs and actions in this life, as i think i have been a genrally moral person.
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...as i think i have been a genrally moral person.
Sounds to me like you have found on your own exactly what Christ tried so hard to teach.

Too many think that being able to quote the bible is what really matters instead of understanding and adopting it's meaning.
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If you did stand before God the moment you leave this life ,"Do You think you would regret the fact that you spent your life pursuing logic,reason,emperical evidence,refuting the christian theological doctrines ,evidence,historical/geographical studies,the bible,Jesus ,God Heaven,Judgement,hell punishment.
Or would you continue to refute ,justify,excuse yourself before God.
Would you blame God for not following after him because of the hypocracy,all the denominations,the conflict between the christian community,the atrocities of historical religion and so on.......

Or would you be regretful,humble and ashamed that you made the wrong choices.
Would you at that point beg for mercy,or do you think you would submit to his decision of eternal punishment.
What would you do????
I will take my place in hell and do so without regret.
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IF i stnad before God, I will know love and be part of it.

If i dont stand before God i will be full of hate and far from God, so far and deep in hate that I will hold not a second to stop hating and consider the actions that placed me where I am.
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If it turns out in the end that I am wrong, then I'm sure that god would already know why I choose not to be a Christian, and I will not regret my choices, spiritual or otherwise that brought me peace and happiness. And, frankly, if god is not satisfied with that, then I am not interested in spending eternity singing his praises.
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