Is belief in a Creator rational? (Earth, beliefs, choice, creation)

[roli]

Originally Posted by YmirGF

*giggles*

My point is BELIEVING in god is perfectly fine. INSISTING that god is real because folks BELIEVE it IS, does not in fact, make god real. To date, no one has ever produced conclusive evidence of "god". That would indicate that there is no god, however, it doesn't mean that one day evidence may not be discovered that would dispel the myths.

Do you have evidence and full assurance that your money is safe and secure in the bank,that your food is safe, your job is secure.
Look at the creation sun,moon ,stars,gravity,hydological cycle,vegatation, air and telll me man designed that or that science created it all.
We only discover what already exists,that is the process of science ,science = knowledge,not creative power.
That's absurd,look at painting and common sense tells you of a painter's existence
The bible says ,
Rom 1:20 - 21Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed [it] unto them.
From the time the world was created, people have seen the earth and sky and all that God made. They can clearly see his invisible qualities-his eternal power and divine nature. So they have no excuse whatsoever for not knowing God.

[eudaimonia]

Originally Posted by roli

Why don't we check and verify that the plane we are about to take 30,000 ft in the air is totally safe to leave the ground.

I get on the plane, not because I believe it is absolutely guaranteed not to crash, but because I am willing to accept the statistically tiny chance that it will.

See? No faith involved at all.


eudaimonia,

Mark

[roli]

Originally Posted by eudaimonia

I get on the plane, not because I believe it is absolutely guaranteed not to crash, but because I am willing to accept the statistically tiny chance that it will.

See? No faith involved at all.

Mark

Don't be afraid to call it what it is,we won't assume anything
To argue against something that is as self existent as faith in daily life regardless of a strong defence against it is futile
Webster's Dictionary
\Faith\,
to
1. Belief; the assent of the mind to the truth of what is
declared byanother, resting solelyand implicitly on his
authority and veracity; reliance on testimony.

2. The assent of the mind to the statement or proposition of
another, on the ground of the manifest truth of what he
utters; firm and earnest belief, on probable evidence of
any kind, especially in regard to important moral truth.

Same faith God requires in order to come to him

If no faith is involved in ,jumping on a plane,trusting the pilot and his skills ,the mechanics and their abilities,eating food some stranger cooks,some person packed and some person transported.trusting in the banks or any investing firm with your money ,than I must conclude your in toal denial,this is merely your attempt to avoid the truth only for arguement sake and it is not even worth my time to debate with you.

You go on the plane with blind faith,no proof, believing it will function as it always has.
Hoping your not that one in a million or whatever the stats are on plane crashes.
We have everything we need to come to God regarding faith and without requiring this emperical evidence and are well experienced because we practice faith everyday and every minute of our lives everyday.

[Rolling_Stone]

"Belief" has nothing to do with it. God-knowingness is an intensly personal experience that cannot be meaningfully translated into words. Belief happens when the "finger pointing to the moon is mistaken for the moon itself."

[love]

Is it rational to believe in tomorrow? Has anyone ever seen tomorrow? Is tomorrow a man made concept of the extension of now. Is planning for tomorrow an act of blind faith?

[UnTheist]

Originally Posted by love

Is planning for tomorrow an act of blind faith?

Not at all.

[Rolling_Stone]

Originally Posted by Sunstone

Belief in a creator seems to me a leap of faith.

The statement assumes the Creator is a being rather than Being itself. Is belief in Being-As-It-Is-Within-Itself a leap af faith?

[Guitar's Cry]

Originally Posted by love

Is it rational to believe in tomorrow? Has anyone ever seen tomorrow? Is tomorrow a man made concept of the extension of now. Is planning for tomorrow an act of blind faith?

Is accepting reality an act of blind faith? I mean, all we have to go on are our limited senses and how our brains interpret them. Perhaps that isn't blind faith, but it is certainly faith. Our senses are easily deceived, and are often misleading, and are always shaped by the framework of our previous experiences of reality.