Is God capible of sin? (Earth, soul, creation, hell)

[starrazor]

With some major life changing events in mylife I have taken a deeper look into my "religion" and belifes. I was asked by someone whos belifes are far different from mine if I thought God was cappable of sin. Their comment to me was if God is a loving God he is not capable of sin, of course this person doesnt believe there is a hell either because if God is a loving God why would he do something like that to us.

After great thought and some remembering of some acts in the old testement I have come to think that maybe God is capable of sin. We are told he is a jelous God and while some dont see jealousy as a sin some do see it as part of ones sinful nature. We are told not to kill as deamed by the 10 commandments and yet look at what God did to Sodam and Gahmora, or all the people that missed the ark. God has shown his anger and wrath through out the bible.. are these not weaknesses that we face in our sinful nature? I dont want to hear God is allowed to be that way because he is God. I feel like that is a major cop out for those that cant explain things.

We are created in the image of God. Is it not impossible then that the sinful nature came from him also. Possibly traits from himself that he doesnt particularly like that he wanted us to choose not to have. I dont know the answer but I know how I am feeling about things. I know there are many things in the bible we cant explain but I dont believe we werent ment to try and find it out. I am interested in hearing what others might have to say about this topic. Thanks for reading.

[Willamena]

Only in as much as you are God.

[Reverend Chris]

I don't believe in hell so for me, God is a loving God. I believe hell was created by man for control. Love does not send a soul to hell for eternity. Vengeance is what I would call condemning a soul to hell for any length of time more especially eternity.

[Ringer]

Originally Posted by starrazor

With some major life changing events in mylife I have taken a deeper look into my "religion" and belifes. I was asked by someone whos belifes are far different from mine if I thought God was cappable of sin. Their comment to me was if God is a loving God he is not capable of sin, of course this person doesnt believe there is a hell either because if God is a loving God why would he do something like that to us.

After great thought and some remembering of some acts in the old testement I have come to think that maybe God is capable of sin. We are told he is a jelous God and while some dont see jealousy as a sin some do see it as part of ones sinful nature. We are told not to kill as deamed by the 10 commandments and yet look at what God did to Sodam and Gahmora, or all the people that missed the ark. God has shown his anger and wrath through out the bible.. are these not weaknesses that we face in our sinful nature? I dont want to hear God is allowed to be that way because he is God. I feel like that is a major cop out for those that cant explain things.

We are created in the image of God. Is it not impossible then that the sinful nature came from him also. Possibly traits from himself that he doesnt particularly like that he wanted us to choose not to have. I dont know the answer but I know how I am feeling about things. I know there are many things in the bible we cant explain but I dont believe we werent ment to try and find it out. I am interested in hearing what others might have to say about this topic. Thanks for reading.

I don't think that God is capable of sin because by doing that he is going against his own nature. Just like we sin because it's in our nature to do so. I know a lot of people have a hard time dealing with God as being loving when you bring factors such as Hell and destruction/wrath into the picture. From what I've studied of the bible though, God's wrath is always poured out as a result of disobedience. It is this justice that many people can't comprehend and as I have seen in RF, turns people off to the Christian God. I won't pretend I know 100% the reasoning behind those events in the bible but the more you study them in context, the less likely you'll see God as full of unbridled wrath.

I would agree with what you said about jealously and that some don't see that as sin. Our idea of jealousy has a negative connotation attached to it but it doesn't always have to be the case. Straight out of an online dictionary:
Bible. intolerant of unfaithfulness or rivalry: The Lord is a jealous God.

The bible tells us that we are God's creation and we are on the earth to worship him and bear his image. When we choose to live otherwise I can see how that would provoke God's jealously but I don't see this as him having a hint of sinful nature. I eluded to wrath already and IMO, after what I can grasp from biblical accounts, do noto see that as hinting to a sinful nature either.

[Hema]

No God is not capable of sin. In the physical universe there is the law of cause and effect (which I call karma), there are dualities, pleasure and pain, right and wrong. God is not limited to the physical universe and is not bound by these rules. God cannot be tempted by negativities which can result in sin. God is above all of this.

[lilithu]

Originally Posted by starrazor

With some major life changing events in mylife I have taken a deeper look into my "religion" and belifes. I was asked by someone whos belifes are far different from mine if I thought God was cappable of sin. Their comment to me was if God is a loving God he is not capable of sin, of course this person doesnt believe there is a hell either because if God is a loving God why would he do something like that to us.

Define sin.

Seriously, how can one answer this question without a definition?

If, as some people define it, sin is anything that is "bad" then the question is who gets to decide what is "good" and what is "bad."

If, as some people define it, "God is good." Then no, God cannot sin, because anything that God does is by definition "good." But that does seem like a cop-out, at least to me.

Otoh, if you decide that being "a jealous God" is bad, then you can say that God has sinned. But then the question is on what basis can you make such a decision.


I prefer the definition of sin as "missing the mark." And I recognize that we all make own marks. We all chose what we aim for. Maybe God was aiming to be a jealous God.

Has God ever fallen short of what God has aimed for?

Interesting question....

[Buttercup]

If you're asking about the Christian God, I say he isn't capable of sinning even though He invented it. He lives in different realm that as far as I know, isn't subjected to sin. God is completely holy and therefore cannot sin.

[starrazor]

Yes but who or how are we to know and classify that God is or isnt capable of sin we can barely understand and comprehend the earth time and space around us how can even fathom then the time and space in which God is in there for how do we really know then that God can or can not sin.

Yes sin is relative in the manner in which it is looked upon. I believe though that time and space are not relevant here since there is the story of the confrontation between God and Satin in which Satin was cast out of heaven. Pure defiance of God the essence of sin. So it did exist at some point and time in "heaven".

How are we to know what God has or hasnt fallen short of?

Yes I do believe there are different standards for us then God has for him self but I am also a firm believer in walk the talk. How can he expect us to do what is good right and true when he doesnt always show us that. Or at least do a really good job of explaining it?

We are supposed to praise God and strive to be in his likeness and yet I look back and think how we have been told that jealousy and hatred and killing and destroying are bad things, maybe not all of them sin but things non the less that God supposedly looks poorly upon and yet he has shown us his hand at these traits. He is a jealous God he has destroyed millions and so on. This is Gods nature to do these things.

God sent Christ to be our savior, to save us from what? If he is loving and there is no hell then why send Christ to earth for what reason does he need to save us from.

[Buttons*]

If you're talking about the 10 commandments concerning sin, than I agree with you. I believe according to God's definition of sin, that he's a bit of a sinner himself.

[Buttercup]

Originally Posted by starrazor

Yes but who or how are we to know and classify that God is or isnt capable of sin we can barely understand and comprehend the earth time and space around us how can even fathom then the time and space in which God is in there for how do we really know then that God can or can not sin.

We don't. We don't even know if there's a God.

How are we to know what God has or hasnt fallen short of?

We can't know.

Yes I do believe there are different standards for us then God has for him self but I am also a firm believer in walk the talk. How can he expect us to do what is good right and true when he doesnt always show us that. Or at least do a really good job of explaining it?

Supposedly that's what the Holy Spirit is to help with.

We are supposed to praise God and strive to be in his likeness and yet I look back and think how we have been told that jealousy and hatred and killing and destroying are bad things, maybe not all of them sin but things non the less that God supposedly looks poorly upon and yet he has shown us his hand at these traits. He is a jealous God he has destroyed millions and so on. This is Gods nature to do these things.

That's what I used to believe as well. Others don't see these actions as commanded by God, they see them as man doing what he wanted all the while saying God said to do it. How you can figure out who says what in the bible is a mystery to me as well, friend.

God sent Christ to be our savior, to save us from what? If he is loving and there is no hell then why send Christ to earth for what reason does he need to save us from.

That's a million dollar question. If you find out the answer then post it here. I doubt you'll find total agreement on the answer though...that's the problem with organized religion.