Do we need help? (ritual, salvation, beliefs, Revelation, experience)

[zenzero]

Friend Somkid,
Buddhism travelled from India to China where it merged with TAO to form ZEN.
The merging happened naturally because of what you state.
Salvation in all religions are the same but somehow its meaning, interpretation, understanding or the audience itself could be reasons for the differences.
Ramakrishna a mystic in India achieved the same salvation by practicing SEVEN [7] different PATHS from Christianity, islam besides 5 ways of the hindu culture.
TAO is NATURE and not anything different except Lao Tzu says be one with Nature by being ordinary but buddhism talks about Nirvana. Final result is the same.
Love & rgds

[Francine]

Originally Posted by zenzero

TAO is NATURE and not anything different except Lao Tzu says be one with Nature by being ordinary but buddhism talks about Nirvana.

Human beings are already one with nature. We arose on this world through a process of natural selection. Taoism is simply coming to realize that or remember that.

[zenzero]

Friend Francine,
Yes, truly man is born as any other being; part of nature but slowly the developed mind of man is the cause of the ego raising its hood and creating that barrier between nature and man.
TAoism does not talk about realisation but being ordinary and by being ordinary one reslises it on its own.
However if one can be aware of thoughts coming and going; then man is always in nature.Getting carried away by thoughts in itself is getting carried away from nature.
Love & rgds

[PureX]

Originally Posted by zenzero

Friend Francine,
Yes, truly man is born as any other being; part of nature but slowly the developed mind of man is the cause of the ego raising its hood and creating that barrier between nature and man.
TAoism does not talk about realisation but being ordinary and by being ordinary one reslises it on its own.
However if one can be aware of thoughts coming and going; then man is always in nature.Getting carried away by thoughts in itself is getting carried away from nature.
Love & rgds

Tao is also about authenticity, and spontaneity, as well as honesty and humility. In fact these are all closely related.

[Francine]

Originally Posted by PureX

Tao is also about authenticity, and spontaneity, as well as honesty and humility. In fact these are all closely related.

It is authentically human to erect barriers and raise the ego. Erasing the self may be commendable, and wise, but it is human nature to extol the self. So we find a sage to be one in a hundred.

[PureX]

Originally Posted by Francine

It is authentically human to erect barriers and raise the ego. Erasing the self may be commendable, and wise, but it is human nature to extol the self. So we find a sage to be one in a hundred.

And this is how embodying the tao becomes a practice.

[Francine]

Originally Posted by zenzero

Yes, truly man is born as any other being; part of nature but slowly the developed mind of man is the cause of the ego raising its hood and creating that barrier between nature and man.

Observe the coyote. Is the coyote filled with angst over the clutter that prevents him from being one with Tao ? It is the very fact that coyotes don't rationalize things that makes him a survivor. That which is anti-Tao quickly dies.

"When the last man takes to his grave, there will be a coyote on hand to lift his leg over the marker." --Robert Michael Pyle