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Old 05-25-2006, 11:26 AM
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I have become icreasingly interested ina game called Assassin's Creed. I started a thread about it here:

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But what I wanted to ask concerns this quote from an article about the game:
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Amid the scattered accounts of the Assassins, one piece of information emerged as particularly evocative, a motto that was said to be the guiding principle of the order- "Nothing is true. Everything is permitted." "As soon as I read that phrase, I thought, there's a game there," says Patrice, "It's very close to Taoism or Buddhism- everything is an illusion, and you can do whatever you want..."
Is this true? Is this saying actually part of Toaism? Just curious
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Old 05-25-2006, 11:43 AM
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I would say that, as it is... no. If it said, "Nothing is true, Everything is true. Everything is permitted, nothing is permitted." Than perhaps. But still, even what I said is a bit off when it comes to Taoism. The concept of everything being an illusion falls more under buddhism than it does Taoism.
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i agree with vigil - this guy does not seem to have a good understanding of taoism.
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"Nothing is true, Everything is true. Everything is permitted, nothing is permitted."
Yup Vigil, more Buddhist in flavour.

"Everything is permitted" is a strange thing to say, no? Permitted by whom? Sounds like a superego hangover.
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The concept of everything being an illusion falls more under buddhism than it does Taoism.

Buddhism actually came out of India and holds more aspects of reincarnation and soul based stuff than taoism, which i would compare more to a political philosophy book, kind of a zen thing with the philosophy of power to lead to understanding.


If you say "everything is an illusion and so lets cause chaos", as an opiate perversion of both those creeds, than i would steer you to the answer to the question of how Crowley's book of the Law was cursed to some who read it...its main tenant being "do what thou wilt"...that may be fine for good people, but there is another passage in there where he says "I flap my wings in muhammed's face and blind him, I peck at the eyes of Jesus as he hangs on the cross" Crowley obviously thinks that rotten hedonists are garbage...and that is what he thinks of the mentality. Crowley was raised in a very strict religious household. I don't think any individual life satanists have ever read anything about any GOD
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Buddhism actually came out of India and holds more aspects of reincarnation and soul based stuff than taoism, which i would compare more to a political philosophy book, kind of a zen thing with the philosophy of power to lead to understanding.
I am quite familiar of the roots of Buddhism and it's aspects. What is your point?


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If you say "everything is an illusion and so lets cause chaos", as an opiate perversion of both those creeds, than i would steer you to the answer to the question of how Crowley's book of the Law was cursed to some who read it...its main tenant being "do what thou wilt"...that may be fine for good people, but there is another passage in there where he says "I flap my wings in muhammed's face and blind him, I peck at the eyes of Jesus as he hangs on the cross" Crowley obviously thinks that rotten hedonists are garbage...and that is what he thinks of the mentality. Crowley was raised in a very strict religious household. I don't think any individual life satanists have ever read anything about any GOD
Again, you have lost me. Unless you weren't directing this comment to me, than it's all good.
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