Prayer (mission, prophet, blessing, Commandment, muslims)

[john313]

thank you for the reply, i was just trying to make people think, pointing out possible hypocrisy from those who claim to be hard-core "sunnah followers". those who point out minor variations/additions in the prayers of others as incorrect while, at the same time, making their own variations from the exact prayers of the prophets, which potentially varied a little from time to time.

i personally say it because i am referring to the "celestial muhammad", with all people being the "descendents".

peace, love, and pat benetar

[TashaN]

Originally Posted by john313

peace,
i was thinking recently, during prayers we say muhammad's(pbuh) name in blessing him and his progeny and say he was the messenger of Allah. why do we do it? did muhammad(pbuh) say "i testify that i am the messenger of Allah"? or "please send blessings on me and my family"?

i think some weird things sometimes

peace, love, and burritos

Definitely, we didn't bring that up from our mind. Islam is preserved by God.

There is a "Sahih" hadith about this, i have the arabic one and i don't know how to get the translated one. I'll just try to translate it myself.

Abdullah bin Abbas "Muslims call him, the translator of the Quran", said that, prophet Mohammed was teaching us the (Tashahod) the same way he was teaching the Quran, and he was saying: al-tahayat al-mubarakat al-salawat altayibat lillah, salam upon you O prophet of Allah and upon ibad of Allah, i witness that there is no god but God, and Mohammed is the Messenger of allah.

The narrator is imam alshafi'i (page/number: 1/119).

[john313]

i was not suggesting it was something someone just made up to do, i was just asking a simple question. and it has not been answered to my satisfaction.

peace

[TashaN]

Originally Posted by john313

i was not suggesting it was something someone just made up to do, i was just asking a simple question. and it has not been answered to my satisfaction.

peace

I answered it already. Prophet Mohammed taught the Muslims how to pray step by step as i explained before in my last post proved by a sahih Hadith.

[john313]

Originally Posted by The Truth

I answered it already. Prophet Mohammed taught the Muslims how to pray step by step as i explained before in my last post proved by a sahih Hadith.

the quran tells us to make no difference between the prophets, why then is muhammad's name the one in there? if there is no difference, then we should be able to substitute any prophet's name right? if we are unwilling to substitute another prophet's name, are we saying the quran is wrong when it says there is no difference between them? by refusing to exchange the names, we are acknowledging difference between them.
i am not trying to be a jerk or anything, i am just trying to understand and separate truth from falsehood.
any thoughts?

peace

[TashaN]

Originally Posted by john313

the quran tells us to make no difference between the prophets, why then is muhammad's name the one in there? if there is no difference, then we should be able to substitute any prophet's name right? if we are unwilling to substitute another prophet's name, are we saying the quran is wrong when it says there is no difference between them? by refusing to exchange the names, we are acknowledging difference between them.
i am not trying to be a jerk or anything, i am just trying to understand and separate truth from falsehood.
any thoughts?

peace

It's ok. No problem to discuss it.

I agree with you that all of them are the same in front of God and we must believe the same thing but you can't generalize into this issue. That's because Mohammed sent to us as the last prophet and you know well that when someone wants to be a muslim he will bare witness tht there is no god but God and Mohammed is the apostle of Allah.

Why can't we just say, and Moses is the apostle of Allah?

This is somthing releated to this final message and prophet Mohammed is a crucial part in it. Moses was for that particulr message, Jesus for his own people as well and Mohammed for the last message to us.

So simple.

[yousaf]

imaam abu hanifa says that to be able to perform whhudu on a sock it must be a strong thick sock and it must not have nay holes if has more than a certain size then you cannot perform whudu on them but the best (socks ) to pperform whudu on are the khuffain

[nuaeman]

Seem like people misunderstood when we mention Muhammad (saw) name. I'm haven't notice any mistakes from what Tashan says. Its correct no difference between the prophets but we refer to Muhammad because he is the last prophet send By Allah and at the same time we still respect and believe the previous prophets. I think this is really simple to understand.

[Hyperborean]

Originally Posted by Muhhamad Abdul Salam

Salam Alakkum, I think one should pray as instructed in the Qur'an when its convinient but if your on a bus or a plane during prayer time then I see no problem with just bowing your head and praying.

Since you mentioned praying inside a plane, I highly recommend flying Malaysia Airlines whenever you go to East Asia. Not only is the food all Halal, but they have a special prayer area within the plane, AND they indicate the direction of Makkah; the only thing which is difficult is calculating the prayer times. I believe it would be permissible to calculate the times based on the city from which you departed.

In all things you should strive to do them as completely as possible; whenever possible DO take your socks and shoes off and perform wudu before you pray.