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Old 03-27-2011, 12:58 PM
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Not just watching it - I get involved: I'm not only a fan; I'm a race marshal, occasional pit/service crew, sometimes-competitor, race organizer... I cover the whole spectrum.

In a practical way, it really is a community, much like religion is. Maybe not so much as a fan, but definitely when you're directly involved. For instance, one marshal I work with was diagnosed with lupus a few years ago; within a few weeks of her letting people know, there were several teams sporting stickers on their car for a local lupus charity, and the next year, an annual fundraiser for lupus research was started.

Really, the main difference between our communities and religious communities is that our Sunday gatherings are a lot louder.

But as for the "spiritual" aspect, well, I think that racing is a powerful metaphor for life. It's very seldom that a person can truly find and push their limits in everyday life; racing is all about finding those limits and staying as close to them as you possibly can. I think that experience is tremendously profound, no matter what the context. To that extent, it doesn't really matter whether it's a car that lets you acheive this - auto racing is just one means (but a very effective means) to communicate the idea that what we consider our limits are often not limits at all.

Also, there's the experience of racing itself: when you're actually in the car and everything's "clicking", you end up in a state that's a lot like a mystical experience... or at least how I hear mystical experiences described. It's hard to explain, but it feels like simultaneous complete control but also complete detachment... focus and attention on everything around you, but also complete lack of focus on any particular thing. It's very powerful.

Like I said, it's hard to explain... still, it strikes me from all the discussions in other threads about the role of mystical experiences in shaping religion that many religions have been founded on less.

Actually, if you're really interested in it, the best expression of what I'm talking about that I've seen yet is Eric Bana's documentary "Love the Beast". His view isn't quite the same as mine (and a lot of the movie is about love of cars in general rather than racing in particular), but I think it does a good job of expressing the feeling.

It's on TV occasionally, and you can get it at the video store. You can also find it online if you look for it, but I'm not going to post any links for that.
Interesting information. Thanks.

Seeing as how you are directly involved with several aspects of the sport, though, I think that's different than having a spiritual experience simply by being a sports fan.
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Old 03-27-2011, 02:41 PM
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Who are these "Cowboys?" Who are these "49ers?" Whodat say dey gonna beat dem Saints?
Whodat got dem more championships then them saints? Lol by the way Cowboys beat them in '09 and.almost won in '11
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Whodat got dem more championships then them saints? Lol by the way Cowboys beat them in '09 and.almost won in '11
Almost doesn't count in football.

Besides that, you're talking to a lifetime Saints fan. Do you honestly think that liking them more than the Cowboys has to make SENSE?
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What mass scale religion doesn't need bench warmers?

Do bench warmers have a spiritual experience?
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Almost doesn't count in football.

Besides that, you're talking to a lifetime Saints fan. Do you honestly think that liking them more than the Cowboys has to make SENSE?
Of course it does..its your country's team lol
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Interesting information. Thanks.

Seeing as how you are directly involved with several aspects of the sport, though, I think that's different than having a spiritual experience simply by being a sports fan.
I don't disagree. I was just speaking for myself.
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Old 03-27-2011, 08:09 PM
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Of course it does..its your country's team lol

You mean my nation - the WhoDat Nation.
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I don't really get into any other sports watching other than football (American). I haven't really watched the college football. It seems like too much to try and follow. I'm not a basket ball person either. I've gone to a few B-ball, football and baseball games before but I don't see the point in spending money on a consistent basis to go and watch. It seems like too much of a hassle. Here's a question.....does anyone here watch the Summer and/or Winter Olympics? I try to watch and keep up with some events....but even with that I'm not totally into every sport presented.
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I always watch quite a bit of the Olympics. Of course not every event, but many of them. I think the Olympics are especially fascinating.
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I don't really get into any other sports watching other than football (American). I haven't really watched the college football. It seems like too much to try and follow. I'm not a basket ball person either. I've gone to a few B-ball, football and baseball games before but I don't see the point in spending money on a consistent basis to go and watch. It seems like too much of a hassle. Here's a question.....does anyone here watch the Summer and/or Winter Olympics? I try to watch and keep up with some events....but even with that I'm not totally into every sport presented.
I don't really watch the Olympics, but I sometimes watch a few highlight clips online, or there have been times where I'm at a friend's house and we watch a little.

I can see why people like it. Watching someone do a huge number of flips on a snowboard or something is pretty awesome. I can understand why people enjoy watching phenomenal amounts of physical skill, and to a certain extent I find it interesting. It's very impressive.

When it comes to sports, the only thing I don't really understand is the concept of being a fan of a specific team (with changing coaches, players, etc.).
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