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Old 05-08-2005, 07:49 PM
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Shinto literally means 'the way of the Kami' Many people are familiar with the term 'kami' - the Japanese concept of 'god' But here's a little more about kami. *Note - some of these will not have perfect grammar and spelling, because they are translated from Japanese. However, the majority of the sources (internet) are encyclopedia or .edu.

Kami are not the same as our Western concept of God. Kami are not all-powerful or perfect - for example:
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In the case of Kami called Kuebiko who is believed to have an exceptionally great power... he knows everything happening in the world, yet, he can not move even a step because he has no leg
Kami are also not only divine. An ancestor can be kami, for example - and often are. People are considered to be Children of the Kami, thus the distinction between 'human' and 'god' is further blurred.

Another note is that anything has the possibility of becoming kami. This is not to say that anything will be considered kami on a whim - it must have certain virtue. As a person, the person must have significantly contributed to the culture, the world, or the family. In general, people are not enshrined during their lifetime.

Musuhi is the creative, harmonic power of the kami (think of the concept of the Tao)

There are many kami that are specific to natural aspects - kami of mountains, streams, oceans, animals, fire, etc.

The divine couple are Izanagi-no-mikoto and Izanami-no-mikoto, who are special because they gave birth to the Japanese islands.

Ukemochi no Kami - the kami of food (singular, female) Also known as Wakaukanome

Yama-no-kami - the kami of mountains (plural, both genders, two types)

Ho-musubi - the kami of fire (singular, male) Of interest - he was cut into many pieces by his father to make several gods.

Amaterasu - the sun kami (singular, female) Often seen as 'the most important kami' although pure Shinto does not otherwise place importance on kami 'rank'

The kami-dana is the Shelf of Gods - the shrine. It often has representations of particular kami - regional, favorite, or ancestral.


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sounds like their describing what westerner call angels. There are angels in charge of different parts of nature. And I believe my grand parents are now guarding over me as angels. The kami of fire sound like the dark angel, Satan. Many similarities. So this must be one of those common truths that you will find connecting all true religions. Thank you for fitting a few more pieces into the puzzle.
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This is similar to Druidry.

We have 33 "Gods" though we allow for any number to potentially exist. These Gods are not all-powerful or all-knowing. For instance, Oghma, God of wisdom, logic, and knowledge may know much, but he cannot know everything.

All of these Gods are underneath the Source, which is literally everything. The Source is the initiator, the Great Learner. Even the Source is not omnisentient, or omnipotent.
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Since Japan really didn't have a written language until China came over, they used Chinese words and made them Japanese. Shin, or in Chinese Shen means spirit. To, or in Chinese Tao means way. So literally it means "The way of the spirits." Kami is just the name of the spirits. Just to clear that up. The rest is fabulous.
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Oh, sorry. I thought I made it clear that Kami was not a general word for spirit Sorry!!!

Other than that, from now on, we might have to cut off discussion, I'm not entirely sure we're supposed to be discussing Shinto as outsiders here
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Oy vey, I agree. Even though I do much study in Shinto beliefs, and apply them to my own. I am still not shinto. OY!
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