The Great War? (Jesus, Earth, followers, prophet, pope)

[*Paul*]

The Great War
(The author of al-Isha'ah has mentioned that this battle will take place in Imam Mahdi's time).
Imam Mahdi will have to fight many battles, the most important and difficult being the battle against the Christians in which a large number of Muslims will be martyred.
' Yusayr bin Jabir said, "A red sandstorm erupted in the city of Kufah. Afterwards, a man came shouting and repeating the same words, 'O Abdullah bin Mas'ud! The hour has come.' He (Yusayr) then said that he sat up after he was leaning (on his side) and said, ''The hour will not arrive until no inheritance will be divided and no war possessions will bring about satisfaction. ''He pointed with his hands towards Ash-Sham saying, ''An enemy will gather its forces against the followers of Islam.''I said, ''Do you mean Ar-Rum? He said ''Yes.''Then, during this war, fierce fighting will occur. Muslim will ask for a volunteer expedition that will vie to die or return victorious. They will fight until the night separates them. Both sides will return to their camps not yet victorious and the expedition will perish.
Muslims will then (in the third day) ask for volunteer expedition that will vie to die or return victorious. They will fight until the night separates them. Both sides will return to their camp not yet victorious and the expedition will perish. In the fourth day, the rest of the Muslim forces will turn against them (the disbelieves) and Allah will defeat them (the disbelieves). They will suffer casualties never heard of before or he said, ''Never seen before, even birds flying near them will not pass without falling down dead.
Afterwards, sons of the same fathers (from the Muslim side), who were near a hundred, will count the survivors and will find out only one of them survived. Therefore, what war possession will bring satisfaction and what inheritance will be divided? While they are doing this they will hear of an even bigger calamity; That is, a man will scream amongst them that the Dajjal has appeared among their families which they left behind. They will discard what they have in their hands and proceed. They will send ten horsemen as an expedition force.
The Messenger of Allah said, ''I know their names and their fathers name and the colours of their horses. They will be the best horsemen on the face of Earth, ''or (he said) ''(They) Will be amongst the best horsemen on the face of Earth.'' (Muslim)
The cause of this great battle will be the Christians. The Christians and Muslims as allies will conquer a third enemy. However, the Christians will act treacherously as they will claim the victory on the strength of their religion, thus the Muslims will be driven to arms and will fight them. Dhu Makhbar said, ''I heard the Apostle of Allah () say, ''You will make a secure peace with the Byzantines, then you will fight an enemy behind you, and you will be victorious, take the boot, and be safe you will the return and alight in a meadow with mounds and one of the Christians will raise the cross and say, 'The cross has conquered'. One of the Muslims will become angry and smash it, and the Byzantines will act treacherously and prepare for battle.''

How could this be possible? There is no such thing as a Christian army. For those of you who try to build friendship / dialogue with Christians, what is the point? If this prophesy is true we will one day betray you and act trecherously. Who is meant by the Byzantines in this day and age?

[john313]

just as jesus loved judas like a brother, we should love all life regardless of what we think they will do. to my knowledge there is no christian or muslim army, but it sounds like they will join forces when they are formed to fight some other army-probably the army of the dajjal/anti-christ, which is not too hard to believe, if there is truth to those words.
is this just some guy's idea of how things are going to hapen or is there a prophetic source to it?

peace

[Djamila]

Originally Posted by john313

just as jesus loved judas like a brother, we should love all life regardless of what we think they will do. to my knowledge there is no christian or muslim army, but it sounds like they will join forces when they are formed to fight some other army-probably the army of the dajjal/anti-christ, which is not too hard to believe, if there is truth to those words.
is this just some guy's idea of how things are going to hapen or is there a prophetic source to it?

peace

The Pope is trying to flirt with Muslims to join his battle against unbelief.

[john313]

Originally Posted by Djamila

The Pope is trying to flirt with Muslims to join his battle against unbelief.

i guess he believes in 'the enemy of my enemy is my ally'.

peace