Multi-Beings (ritual, Kingdom, soul, hell, spiritual)

[kreeden]

Ok , so I'm just lost in the Chaos of my own mind . But I'm happily lost , with all of my other selves here to keep me company ....

[kreeden]

You are quite welcome MV . And I thank you . I have never tried to put this to words before . Not really . Only in bits and pieces . And I had wondered what I was getting myself into here .

Hey , these ideas work for me . And that is all that they were ever designed to do . I would like to thank everyone who has asked questions , put forth different opinions and whatever . You have all helped me organize these thoughts into works ... although I'm still not sure how well I managed to do so .

BTW MV , I like how you present the Vigil . The same concept as the Triquetra really . And yes , very much as your overlapping energy spheres .... Hmm , perhaps I should have visited your site first ? If would have made things much easier to explain .

[michel]

Originally Posted by kreeden

Had to think on that one Prima . And this old mind tends to hurt if it thinks too deeply . But yes , I believe that I agree with what you are saying , if I understand it ?

Ok , what I'm trying to same is that we enteract on different levels of Reality , at all times . And that Jung's Archetypes are one explaination of the personas that we tend to use while doing so . Hey , I very well could be mistaken in my understanding of Jung's ideas . Perhaps I am taking too many liberties here ? I'm using them as a reference , and have also used Chakras as such . The two really have nothing in common though . Other then being a way to .... chart our being , in relationship to what we call Reality . So please , if you don't feel that they are good excamples , explain why and I will try to find better .

All that I'm trying to do here is explain that we are multi-leveled entities , existing upon a multi-leveled Reality . It is something that makes sense to me , but I'm not sure if I can explain it .

I'm not quite sure why, or how, but it actually makes sense to me too! - Should I be worried?

[Master Vigil]

Originally Posted by kreeden

You are quite welcome MV . And I thank you . I have never tried to put this to words before . Not really . Only in bits and pieces . And I had wondered what I was getting myself into here .

You did a wonderful job.

Hey , these ideas work for me . And that is all that they were ever designed to do . I would like to thank everyone who has asked questions , put forth different opinions and whatever . You have all helped me organize these thoughts into works ... although I'm still not sure how well I managed to do so .

And I would like to thank you, you helped me as well when you first came to this place.

BTW MV , I like how you present the Vigil . The same concept as the Triquetra really . And yes , very much as your overlapping energy spheres .... Hmm , perhaps I should have visited your site first ? If would have made things much easier to explain .

Thank you, I am happy you like how it is presented. Any comments, questions, or concerns would be greatly appreciated. I very much trust your opinion.

[kreeden]

Thank you Michel and MV , for your kind words . Thinking back , I am sure that I could have explained it better though . I tried to say too much in too few words .

I would also like to share an insight that I had tonight . Awhile back , Toes , one of the Ravens I feed , was singing to me . I asked him what he was trying to tell me . He stopped , looked at me , and I got a very clear image of the Throat Chakra . Now , I had never looked into Chakras very deeply before , so a bough a book , just to find out what the Throat Chakra had to do with anything . Why I would get an image of any Chakra was beyond me . But ok, I'm game . It wasn't untill tonight that I add the connection .

I have a lot of unconnected ideas , but I have never tried to express them in an orderly fashion before . Untill they are , they remain just ideas , not really a belief . And without realizing it , I think that is what I was trying to do here . Without realizing it , I was taking the advice of a Raven . Cool eh ?

[michel]

Since we are into exploring ideas, I just had a thought today (That's my week's ration) - What if schizophrenia is a psychotic malfunction of the regulation of the multi-Beings ?

[kreeden]

Actually Michel , you are not allow in that thought . Many have made the same connection . I personally have wondered if I am schizophonic . And some had even said that schizophrenia is a goal with Shamanism . Others say that mental wards are full of people who have nothing wrong with them , other then they live in the Spiritual world and not the Physical .

So I can't answer your question . Only thing that I can say is that if it is , then I believe that we all are schizophonic to some degree .

[michel]

Actually, I think you are more 'correct' in what you say than you realize.........

Most of us, feel low sometimes, we will always come across events in our lives that do make us feel low. However, that 'low' is not 'depression' - we all have degrees of most aspects of 'conditions' in us - as long as they don't 'impinge' on our daily lives, they are not clinical problems, merely anoying Character traits.

Strangely enough, this thread has been 'gnawing away' at me for the last few days; the more I think about it, the more the idea seems to have validity.

[Master Vigil]

There are different levels of Schizophrenics. One may have a mild case, and perceive spirits. But full blown schizophrenics seriously need the help. The paranoid schizophrenics are the worst in my opinion. But the catatonic ones are bad too. They speak in word salads, and have trouble controlling body movement. Eye movement is also degraded. But on a mild level, I suppose a link can be made between Schizoids and Shamans.