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Old 10-12-2010, 09:00 PM
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From a Christian Bible perspective,

Is god power limited to a degree?

He couldn't stop or didn't know Satan turned into a snake?
If he stop him before he started then it wouldn't happen...

There is so many cases in the bible , where god didn't step in and change. He allowed bad to happen to cried about it later...

I mean how power is this Christian god Yahweh-Elohim? Does he have the power to do anything and everything change scriptures, change the past, become an avatar, change him mind about the bible..or is he stuck by his word and cant change it?

idk it sounds weak
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Old 10-12-2010, 09:02 PM
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Is god power limited to a degree?There is so many cases in the bible , where god didn't step in and change. He allowed bad to happen to cried about it later...
God's is omnipotent (all powerful) (Revelation 19:6; Isaiah 46:10-11) He simply chooses not to exercise it on mankind at this time, in order to allow His plan to unfold.

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From a Christian Bible perspective,

Is god power limited to a degree?

He couldn't stop or didn't know Satan turned into a snake?
If he stop him before he started then it wouldn't happen...

There is so many cases in the bible , where god didn't step in and change. He allowed bad to happen to cried about it later...

I mean how power is this Christian god Yahweh-Elohim? Does he have the power to do anything and everything change scriptures, change the past, become an avatar, change him mind about the bible..or is he stuck by his word and cant change it?

idk it sounds weak

The god of the bible is completely limited in his power and his knowledge.
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What A_E said.
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What A_E said.
A_E is right when he says, "nope," because that's what the Bible says.
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Kinda hoping it wasn't the case when I first opened a bible...but the god of the bible seemed to be clueless as to the goings on of its creation and it lacked the ability to control what was happening or even the ability to know what was going to happen.....Not an all knowing, all seeing, all powerful to me....
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Kinda hoping it wasn't the case when I first opened a bible...but the god of the bible seemed to be clueless as to the goings on of its creation and it lacked the ability to control what was happening or even the ability to know what was going to happen.....Not an all knowing, all seeing, all powerful to me....
Is this not making a hasty generalization and begging the question? God claims He is (all powerful, all knowing, all seeing) and you think He isn't. If Einstein, Darwin, ----fill in the blanks with those you admire--- or anyone with much greater minds than ours, were to say something contrary to what we think or believe, would we not be compelled to take a closer look?

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Kinda hoping it wasn't the case when I first opened a bible...but the god of the bible seemed to be clueless as to the goings on of its creation and it lacked the ability to control what was happening or even the ability to know what was going to happen.....Not an all knowing, all seeing, all powerful to me....
The interesting thing about the Bible is that, at the beginning, God is portrayed as very active in the world, and very human-like. As the story progresses, God retreats further and further into the background, until God no longer talks directly to people. God becomes more powerful and less human-like, and human beings "step up to the mic."
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