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Old 05-17-2008, 11:15 AM
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No, we had a lot of our own iron, but while the Earth was still a big swirling ball of liquid another planet collided with us fusing the two planets into one, although much of the second planet was ejected back into space forming the moon.

For as long as the Earth has been the Earth as we know it i.e. its current size and shape, we've had all the iron we still do. It didn't rain from space.
Actually we do get small amounts raining down from space--meteoric iron. And it was probably meteoric iron which was the first iron utilized by mankind.

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Old 05-17-2008, 12:54 PM
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Earth has an awful lot of iron because during our planet's formation a second planet collided with us, we stole most of the iron core from that planet while the rest of it became our moon.
Correct, except that the moon is made from an amalgamation of pre Earth and the other planet's material, the moon has very little volatiles indicating it was formed from the debris of the collision as they underwent gravitational attraction to become the Moon.
The other planet, I will bet money on, was Mars.

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Actually we do get small amounts raining down from space--meteoric iron. And it was probably meteoric iron which was the first iron utilized by mankind.

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Old 05-17-2008, 11:17 PM
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cordoba if your going to say that iron comes from meteorites then yes of course it does , and if your going to say the Quran says it does then yes of course it would , the quran was written well after the iron age we were already carrying steel swords by that time. so no surprises there.
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iron is magnetic,the earth mars and all solid orbiting planets have to be dense at the core to create an obitour galaxy might be orbiting a black hole wich is the same mass as our sun shrunk to the size of a molex900000000000,masive gravity.the earth is a magnet atracted yet repulsed from the sun,iron is part but i bet gold and platnum r part to,density,conductivity and the atraction of atoms is why,iron or magnets create gravity wich creates mass wich=wieght=newtonian physics!the moon moves oceans cause of density creating gravity,the tides go to the moon lol.the earth is a ball of carbon elements,just like the rest of the known matter,gasios planets r related,helium,hydrogen,carbon,the solar system is a gold pan,shake it the gravel goes fist lighter,saturn,gas giant.the gold and black sand stay,irons a little less dense than gold but more abundant,the bang or gods first day started the blender and matter cooled and came together suns or stars r the rotor and the planets r the spokes,some hold more presure than others,mars is cooler but garuanteed has a magnetic core,magma is at the core liqiud dense and hot=energy.the moon orbits our magnet at an exact range because it cannot be atracted or repulsed because its mass is not great enough.the great wheel in the sky,nine orbs circling a nuculear,dense live star wich might be part of an orbit of galaxys orbiting a black hole wich is e=mc2xhawkings theory of the death and rebirth of stars,all info ie mass,light or particle wich neers the event horizon is gone!but not,particles make anti particles,positrons cirle neutrons,glueons quarks and all the colors of em have systems of orbits,atoms atract to make molecules wich join to make liquids gasses and solids but can all be reverted to energy!the earth is iron cause its what stablizes our path around the sun,black sand and gold,most use mercury to seprate the fines,i bet its platinum and gold magma cirled by iron and less dense elements wich gets shuffled by tectonics and water and magma to the serface lol
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cordoba if your going to say that iron comes from meteorites then yes of course it does , and if your going to say the Quran says it does then yes of course it would , the quran was written well after the iron age we were already carrying steel swords by that time. so no surprises there.
Iron was used at the time, and before since Prophet David, peace be upon him

But was its origin known to be from meteorites?
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Old 05-18-2008, 10:09 PM
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Iron was used at the time, and before since Prophet David, peace be upon him

But was its origin known to be from meteorites?
Iron meteorites consist overwhelmingly of nickel-iron alloys. The metal taken from these meteorites is known as meteoric iron and was one of the earliest sources of usable iron available to man.

isnt the kaaba stone a meteor?
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What is the origin of earth's iron?

What do we know from science on this issue?

How was it formed?
Were these real questions?

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One of the chapters of The Qur'an is titled (Iron)

It's chapter 57

This is what is mentioned in that chapter about iron:

(And We sent down iron, wherein is great military might and benefits for the people)

(57:25)
Or was this to share what you believe is the correct answer to what you do not know?

Maybe with others adding information you can see how that script 'makes sense'
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Actually we do get small amounts raining down from space--meteoric iron. And it was probably meteoric iron which was the first iron utilized by mankind
SO to see a meteor falling from the sky, maybe that is why stories tell us god 'sent' iron from the heavens but now as knowledge has increased we know there are billions of meteors in belts within our solar system.

Or we can see a little different view.


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The most wellknown - and probably most talked about- example of meteorite worship in newer time is in the Islamic tradition. In spite of the banning of any making a picture of God and the ban of worship and adoration of any objects, in the central sanctuary of all Muslimes, the Kaaba in Mecca,there is a black stone, which each Mecca-pilgrim kisses after his tour around the sanctuary. This stone, by the Muslims called "Hadschar al Aswad" (black stone) or according to the Prophet "Yamin Allah" (the right hand of God), is supposedly a Bethel-stone from the times of Abraham and is taken by numerous modern scientists for a meteorite. Many muslim scholars however deny this in order to put out of question each suspicion of a possible idol worship in Islam. Unfortunately by this religious reservedness until today it is not clarified unambiguously whether the Hadschar is now of cosmic origin or not.
…….. the example of the Hadschar al Aswad gives evidence of the conflict between modern science and traditional religion.
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