"Science Stole My Religion" (Buddhism, attend, church, bible)

[Azakel]

Originally Posted by Father Heathen

Well, there's always the issue of evolution, plate tectonics, spherical earth, etc.

Originally Posted by Draka

Which aren't even an issue for several religions. Really, those things only become a problem for YECers.

Like Draka said, not for all religion. Maybe if one is a Christian or Muslim it might be against and put down it. But it doesn't do it to mine.

[Father Heathen]

Originally Posted by Storm

... and even they accept a spherical earth.

The bible describes it as having edges, corners and resting upon pillars.

[Storm]

Originally Posted by Father Heathen

The bible describes it as having edges, corners and resting upon pillars.

And of course, the Bible is the foundation of all religion.

[Father Heathen]

Originally Posted by Storm

And of course, the Bible is the foundation of all religion.

Of course not. I never suggested anything of the sort.

Someone suggested that people shouldn't separate science and religion. It's great when ones spiritual beliefs and science can go together harmoniously, but of course for many faiths that is not possible because the basis of their faith (such as the bible, for example) directly contradict science. That's why I brought up evolution, plate tectonics, spherical earth, etc. Then someone said that not even they believe the earth is flat anymore. That's all. Sorry for the misunderstanding.

[The Riley Family]

I have heard many occasions where people say that science contradicts the bible and vice versa. It is more likely that people just contradict each other. A few years back when I got into plant sciences I was warned by many so called religious people around me to be careful because I could turn from my faith. Instead the complete opposite happened. It's not the bible that contradicts science or vice versa but instead they support each other, at least the irrevocable laws of science not necessarily the theories. People view the bible from church doctrines instead of what is really stated. That is why so many people are confused when they read it. Here is an example. There are many who claim the earth was formed in 7 twenty four hour days. The bible never states this. In fact it says 1 day is like a thousand years and a thousand years like a day. So you have another group that states it was created in 7 one thousand year periods. The bible never states this either. Realistically it only makes sense that each day would be a period of time similar to how science dates particular periods. The existence of the dinosaurs would make sense then as well as a myriad of other things. In other words it all has to fit and that is why it would not make sense for the seventh day to have arrived yet. The messiah told people he does what he sees his father doing and he stated they had not rested to that very day. He also told one of the gentlemen that was being crucified along side of him that before the day was done they would be in paradise together. That would be the seventh day or the day of rest and his people are the ones who enter in to it. The messiah was not raised for 3 earth time days. It should not be that difficult to understand. I wouldn't imagine the other planets in this solar system would base their time on earth time nor would I imagine any planet in this galaxy or any other galaxy would either. If earth went by one day on Venus that would take 243 earth days to achieve this. I hope I can help people at least look at what the bible is about and not base it on so called religious doctrines. The doctrines create the problems such as war and suffering. So much suffering has been caused in the name of so called religious doctrine. The bible says thou shalt not kill and some of the greatest killers on the planet have been those that claim they believe in the bible. Those are not the kind of people I want in any kingdom. God is not the killer. He came and healed, fed, and taught the people. They did not like what he had to say so they killed him. Who is the murderer. The messiah asked his father to forgive them. So they kill an innocent man. Now they parade a tortured dead figure of a supposed man around on a stick and bow down to it as if it could do anything to help anyone. Then with their doctrines they contradict everything the messiah stood for. That is why j-e-s-u-s = 616 and the crucifix = 666 and why praying to it is like taking a placebo. The messiah is coming back and he will destroy that impostor. His people will be doing likewise when he comes. Like father like son.

(I would like to make something clear about this statement. To destroy the impostor means to blow its cover or reveal its identity for what is really is. The weapons of our war is the word, the word is the sword. The weapons are not bombs or knives, or bringing harm to a person. That would very obviously contradict the bible and really should not be necessary to clarify. Because of a possible lack of understanding I will oblige.)

[logician]

Richard Dawkins is correct in the "God Delusion", the science of evolution is not compatible with religious faith, god concepts were invented for man's reasons, not for some supposed god's.

[Storm]

Originally Posted by logician

Richard Dawkins is correct in the "God Delusion", the science of evolution is not compatible with religious faith, god concepts were invented for man's reasons, not for some supposed god's.

You're wrong. Not only is evolution entirely compatible with my religious faith, it's central to my theology.

[Draka]

Originally Posted by Storm

You're wrong. Not only is evolution entirely compatible with my religious faith, it's central to my theology.

ditto

[logician]

Really, explain how Xianity is compatible with evolution.

[Storm]

Originally Posted by logician

Really, explain how Xianity is compatible with evolution.

1) Who said anything about Christianity? You said "religious faith". I said "religious faith". Christianity is not the only religion.

2) Simple. A CHristian believes that God used evolution. I know plenty who do.