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Old 03-24-2008, 01:47 PM
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Mind = Brain thats it, no more discussion necessary. Anyone who cannot grasp this just doesn't understand what a brain is.
Well that's mostly right. The Mind is more of what the brain does, since brains can stop working, minds can't. When the mind stops working, your brain becomes a lump of greyish-pinkish jelly that doesn't do anything.
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Old 03-24-2008, 03:17 PM
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I don't believe there are true scientific experiments that have shown that these experiences are "authentic", i.e. putting words on top of cabinets, the patients could not identify the words while "floating" in the air. Again, the brain is capable of many hallucinations under tremendous stress (or drugs).
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Old 03-25-2008, 03:32 AM
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Well that's mostly right. The Mind is more of what the brain does, since brains can stop working, minds can't. When the mind stops working, your brain becomes a lump of greyish-pinkish jelly that doesn't do anything.

I agree except your last sentence should read:

When the brain stops working, it becomes a lump of greyish-pinkish jelly that doesn't do anything.

Perhaps I should restate my equation more correctly

Mind= working brain
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Old 03-25-2008, 07:12 AM
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I agree except your last sentence should read:

When the brain stops working, it becomes a lump of greyish-pinkish jelly that doesn't do anything.

Perhaps I should restate my equation more correctly

Mind= working brain
And "working" implies more than "nonworking" brain, right. It implies activity, function, use.
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Old 03-26-2008, 04:47 AM
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And "working" implies more than "nonworking" brain, right. It implies activity, function, use.

Yes thats right, but it doesn't imply any kind of spirit/soul. A working computer/car/radio/steamtrain etc etc doesn't need a spirit/soul.
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Old 03-26-2008, 05:09 AM
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Perhaps I should restate my equation more correctly

Mind= working brain
Where has this been established scientifically ?
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Yes thats right, but it doesn't imply any kind of spirit/soul. A working computer/car/radio/steamtrain etc etc doesn't need a spirit/soul.
Yet, they get one anyway.
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Where has this been established scientifically ?

Just read any neuroscience journal and you will find many examples.

Perhaps you should be asking why there is no case anywhere anytime of someones mind being affected without their brain being altered (permanently or temporarily) in some way.
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