What is Mind? (vain, point of view, Christian, verse, Christ)

[Random]

Originally Posted by Francine

The mind is a process executed by the brain.

That's it, yes. I find the brain-hardware/CPU analogy works well with mind-Software couplet. There are many ways consciousness survives death. Think of a variety of disks which store information...

[doppelgänger]

Originally Posted by Random

That's it, yes. I find the brain-hardware/CPU analogy works well with mind-Software couplet. There are many ways consciousness survives death. Think of a variety of disks which store information...

I find computer models fairly useful, too. The mind is the operating system for reality. Before the self is concretized, memories are not deposited into a relational file structure, but they are there in a form inaccessible to consciousness, which depends on its relational database structure to sort and access memories. But those unsorted memories persist and can have dramatic effects on all other processes (including the operating system itself in ways it cannot perceive), like a system BIOS or "boot disk".

[Francine]

Originally Posted by Random

That's it, yes. I find the brain-hardware/CPU analogy works well with mind-Software couplet. There are many ways consciousness survives death. Think of a variety of disks which store information...

When I store my MP3s on DVDs I can't hear them playing. Even if our memories are stored after death, we need a brain to access them.

[djrez4]

Originally Posted by yossarian22

A schizophrenic has a flaw in their wiring. That, if anything, destroys the concept of mind. I can give you bi-polar disorder for instance.

No need for that, thank you.

I think you meant "multiple personality disorder" or "dissociative identity disorder" perhaps.

Perhaps I did.

Oh shut up.

Who said that?

[Alex_G]

The mind i would say is the brain with all its generic properties and functions plus the customisations and changers that occure through learning and memory by means of synaptic plasticity for example. (Genes + memes could be another way of putting it). What happens to this system at death who really knows. Im in a rush atm, so if u guys are still talking about the survival of the mind after death ill post later
bye

[logician]

Originally Posted by Random

There are many ways consciousness survives death. .

Really, prove one of them.

[Random]

Originally Posted by Francine

When I store my MP3s on DVDs I can't hear them playing. Even if our memories are stored after death, we need a brain to access them.

Not necessarily. The computer model is only that: a model. The specifics are different.

[Random]

Originally Posted by logician

Really, prove one of them.

I can't prove what I know to you, that would be a futile waste of time. Death is transformation, that is all. Go find out for yourself.

[Random]

Originally Posted by doppelgänger

I find computer models fairly useful, too. The mind is the operating system for reality. Before the self is concretized, memories are not deposited into a relational file structure, but they are there in a form inaccessible to consciousness, which depends on its relational database structure to sort and access memories. But those unsorted memories persist and can have dramatic effects on all other processes (including the operating system itself in ways it cannot perceive), like a system BIOS or "boot disk".

Programs, the mind operates on programs.

[logician]

Originally Posted by Random

I can't prove what I know to you, that would be a futile waste of time. Death is transformation, that is all. Go find out for yourself.

I'm not willing to die to test your hypothesis, I can't report back.