Is logic over-rated? (homosexual, choice, atheist, faith) - Page 14

Scuba Pete · #**131** 06-02-2008, 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Phasmid

Is logic over-rated?

It's not that logic is over-rated. No, its the problem that many who claim to rely on "logic" don't really understand what they are talking about. All too often, they present something as being logical simply because they believe it. It's kinda funny really, but many of those who claim to live by it are the most flawed.

The Voice of Reason · #**132** 06-02-2008, 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Scuba Pete

It's not that logic is over-rated. No, its the problem that many who claim to rely on "logic" don't really understand what they are talking about. All too often, they present something as being logical simply because they believe it. It's kinda funny really, but many of those who claim to live by it are the most flawed.

You leave Gadfly out of this.

UnTheist · #**133** 06-02-2008, 08:47 PM

There is also this thing called "Atheistic Logic" proposed by gadfly, which is an entirely different kind of logic. You should include that, as well.

The Voice of Reason · #**134** 06-02-2008, 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by UnTheist

There is also this thing called "Atheistic Logic" proposed by gadfly, which is an entirely different kind of logic. You should include that, as well.

Well - it's definitely different, but I'd hesitate to call it "logic", in any sense of the word.

Scuba Pete · #**135** 06-02-2008, 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by The Voice of Reason

You leave Gadfly out of this.

My friend, the number of those who claim to use logic and reason are legion. I would be censured (and censored) were I to start to list them all here. I used to think that some of these people were born stupid, but it has become obvious that they work exceptionally hard to get this stupid. BTW, were I to make this list, you and Jay would be notably absent... and just a couple of others.

UnTheist · #**136** 06-02-2008, 08:52 PM

I would definitely be in that list.

The Voice of Reason · #**137** 06-02-2008, 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Scuba Pete

My friend, the number of those who claim to use logic and reason are legion. I would be censured (and censored) were I to start to list them all here. I used to think that some of these people were born stupid, but it has become obvious that they work exceptionally hard to get this stupid. BTW, were I to make this list, you and Jay would be notably absent... and just a couple of others.

Why, thank you, Pete. Being mentioned with Jay (Deut 32) is a compliment of the highest order in my mind.

It looks like I'm going to have to reinstate those frubals that I had to recall on the Johnny Depp video.

Scuba Pete · #**138** 06-06-2008, 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by The Voice of Reason

Why, thank you, Pete. Being mentioned with Jay (Deut 32) is a compliment of the highest order in my mind.

If you were to do a search under my name for TVOR, I am sure you would find many instances of me talking about you behind your back.

Storm · #**139** 06-06-2008, 09:35 AM

I think logic is sometimes overrated. People conflate it with reason or rationality, when it's really just a tool to determine whether an argument/ position is internally sound. It tells us nothing about whether that position is right.