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Old 05-19-2007, 08:57 AM
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The Universe—Did It Come About by Chance? interesting link
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Interesting but biased. If something is required to make the universe, why is nothing required to make God?
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Interesting but biased. If something is required to make the universe, why is nothing required to make God?
before you even get to that question, the grounds of the argument for God in the teleological argument are based on inference - the teleological argument can provide grounds for inferring polytheism, monotheism, benevolence, malevolence, and other contradictory characteristics of the inferred designer. the teleological can't even describe God, and i reckons you would need to succeed in doing that before asking your question

but good question all the same!
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Old 05-19-2007, 11:35 AM
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Hmmm ill need to find out more about this teleological argument, thanks
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Hmmm ill need to find out more about this teleological argument, thanks
William Paley is supposedly the first to formulate the argument properly. David Hume does a great critique of the argument from design in his book "Dialogues concerning natural religion".
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May, is this what you wanted debating?
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Old 05-21-2007, 01:06 AM
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Interesting but biased. If something is required to make the universe, why is nothing required to make God?
because as his name tells us ............. HE CAUSES TO BECOME.......... he is dynamic energy
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Ahh see then its just as valid to say the Universe popped into existence without him
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