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Old 02-10-2007, 06:25 PM
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How wrongly he has been represented then!!

I get no sense of 'my way is the only way' (though I have not yet finished the book).

His point is that we have the power to reason and evaluate and that religion does not stand up to reason and evaluation.

The faithful tell us that the Bible is 'The Word of God' but where is the evidence for that?

He asks some pretty searching questions that I would be interested to hear believers answer. (In the spirit of understanding of course!)
I wouldn't buy it but if someone were to give me a copy i'd flick through it to see if i considered it worth reading.
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Old 02-10-2007, 06:28 PM
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I'd give it a fair chance, but whether or not I'd end up finishing it is another story.
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Old 02-10-2007, 06:29 PM
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Are you open minded enough to read Richard Dawkins 'The God Delusion'? Could you, given that you know at the outset that it sets out to show the paucity of reason/evidence behind all religions?

Or will you dismiss it without having evaluated the ideas put forward?
Gee, I guess the fact that I've actually read it would answer your question?
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Old 02-10-2007, 06:32 PM
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How wrongly he has been represented then!!
Quite possibly.

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His point is that we have the power to reason and evaluate and that religion does not stand up to reason and evaluation.
In which I must compliment him, for he seeks to change us to his beliefs through persuasion and not force. That's laudable.

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The faithful tell us that the Bible is 'The Word of God' but where is the evidence for that?
There really is a lot more to religion than Judaism and Christianity, you know.

Stick around for a while. It can be quite horizon-expanding even you don't find any reasons to subscibe to religious beliefs yourself.
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I'm a believer and consider myself faithful. I would never say that the Bible is the "Word of God". If it is, it isn't of my goddess. Are you meaning only the faithful of a certain religion and not all theists?
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I'm a believer and consider myself faithful. I would never say that the Bible is the "Word of God". If it is, it isn't of my goddess. Are you meaning only the faithful of a certain religion and not all theists?
Is the point where I squawk "told you so"?

Or maybe you were reading *my* mind...since we posted simultaneously. Hm!
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I'm not a believer, but I would read Dawkins. I am especially interested in whether he presents any arguments debunking the alarming notion that gnome gnapping is a socially acceptable spiritual path.
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Is the point where I squawk "told you so"?

Or maybe you were reading *my* mind...since we posted simultaneously. Hm!
Your mind would be a fun one to read! I imagine there's a lot going on in there!

Sunstone addresses an important factor- what is Dawkins' positon on the universal morality of gnome gnapping, and how it is practised by many faiths as a form of celebration. (And general rabble rousing, gnaturally.)
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