Science or Scripture? (tradition, prophecy, scriptures, Christian, Christ)

[doppelgänger]

Originally Posted by FerventGodSeeker

It's an observation...man's words change, God's don't.

However it is undeniable that Scripture is written in man's words. There's not a single word in the Bible that I can't read, associate meaning with, and attempt to use for communication.

So Scripture changes with every person who reads it.

[Guitar's Cry]

Originally Posted by IronicallyTwisted

Very clever people say very silly things sometimes.

What do you mean?

[linwood]

Originally Posted by IronicallyTwisted

Very clever people say very silly things sometimes.

I agree Clever people have indeed said silly things, Einstein included.

However I believe you need to have an understanding of exactly what Einsteins "religion" was.
The statement then makes perfect sense.

I haven`t ever seen this quote in context though so that might prove it silly after all.

[Booko]

Originally Posted by GeneCosta

If the scientific community promotes an idea that goes against scripture, which should you rally yourself behind?

Generally speaking:

Furthermore He proclaims that religion must be in harmony with science and reason. If it does not conform to science and reconcile with reason it is superstition. Down to the present day it has been customary for man to accept a religious teaching even though it were not in accord with human reason and judgment. The harmony of religious belief with reason is a new vista which Bahá'u'lláh has opened for the soul of man.

(Abdu'l-Baha, Baha'i World Faith - Abdu'l-Baha Section, p. 247)

[Booko]

Originally Posted by FerventGodSeeker

It's an observation...man's words change, God's don't.

Actually, some of God's words do change. Were it not so, you would be following Mosaic Law.

[lilithu]

Originally Posted by TurkeyOnRye

If one creates a timeline in relation to the Bible, one finds that the earth is approximately 6 thousand years old. 6 THOUSAND! That's absolutely ridiculous. You claim that modern science is always changing and being updated but modern science, through many independent methods of dating, tell us that earth is approximately 4.5 billion years.

How can Christians deal with this kind of inconsistency?

Rather easily. Most Christians do not take the bible literally.


As for the ones who do, in my experience they seem to have a hostile suspicion of science.

[Booko]

Originally Posted by s2a

"God's Word" has been consistently altered, amended, and overtly changed ever since a scribe has presumed to "speak" for Him in religious texts.

Even were it not so, there are probably at least a billion people in the world who accept the Bible as scriptural, but believe there's been a chapter or two added since.

Or, perhaps you have knowledge and/or access to some unexpurgated and "original", verbatim accounting of "God's Word"? If so, is it available for sale?

Well, there's one unexpurgated and original text of a religion's scripture available in Haifa, but how one proves in the strictest sense that it's "God's Word" is a sticky wicket, to say the least.

[Dirty Penguin]

Originally Posted by doppelgänger

That's a self-fulfilling prophecy.

I agree.

some, not all, theist seem to be under the assumption that science is set out to "Prove" something to them. whether their way of life is correct or incorrect.

i have seen science as having questions that can't be answered. So science does do a lot of theorizing but then it tries to make the theory a fact. is it alway correct? No..Does it attempt to correct itself...Yes....Do scientist admit when it is incorrect?..Yes

Don't religious people try to interpret their scriptures in order to tell a story in order for people to understand?

Isn't some of that interpretation sometimes considered a theory on behalf of the person interpreting a story?

Most information i have read and documentaries i have seen on evolution the scientist tend to stay away from challenging religious scholars.

I mean isn't the planet earth billions of years old...Didn't dinosaurs walk the earth millions of years ago.....Doesn't man...as far as fossil records go back about 160,000 years ago...????

The bible doesn't explain ANY of this. The bible says

Gen: 1:2 And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of Elohim moved upon the face of the waters.

So it's not like the earth wasn't there. it was because it says that God moved upon the face of the waters.

Science is not alone in the theory business. Religion does it too.