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Old 09-02-2006, 07:18 AM
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Yahoo news reports:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060901/...ment_wilson_dc

E.O. Wilson says that both science and religion can work together to save the envirorment in the above article. Do you feel the two can ever work in mutual agreeement on perserving the envirorment and if so how?

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Osborne_Wilson
http://www.cnn.com/SPECIALS/2001/ame....eowilson.html
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Old 09-02-2006, 07:28 AM
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Perhaps. but I'd have to be convinced Science really has a working interest in saving the environment first. Genetic modification alters it irreversibly, one example of God's sacred Creation being corrupted by the paradigm.

Unfortunately, as long as Abrahamic religion is dominant in the field, Man has full authority to exploit the environment and consume as and when he likes. The Bible says the Earth was created for him to do with according to his desires, so don't expect right-wing literalists to get psyched about saving the trees anytime soon. Or ever, in fact.

All in all, I doubt there'll ever be serious co-operation between Science and Religion to preserve our natural world. They'd rather Master reality than live with it.
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Do you feel the two can ever work in mutual agreeement on perserving the envirorment and if so how?
Yes. See Unitarian Universalism: Environmental Justice & Global Warming
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Perhaps. but I'd have to be convinced Science really has a working interest in saving the environment first. Genetic modification alters it irreversibly, one example of God's sacred Creation being corrupted by the paradigm.
Much like when we made extinct God's creation: Smallpox.

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Unfortunately, as long as Abrahamic religion is dominant in the field, Man has full authority to exploit the environment and consume as and when he likes. The Bible says the Earth was created for him to do with according to his desires, so don't expect right-wing literalists to get psyched about saving the trees anytime soon. Or ever, in fact.
Very true. Ever wonder why there's a religious movement to pretend global warming isn't happening?
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Maybe, though (appart from the U.U's)I see no religion having much to contribute to the salvation of our planet.

what I found most revealing is that it sounds as if Mr Wilson is not a true atheist; but as he says himself "A provisional deist"........now, what does that mean ? - Now I am, Now I'm not ?

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In the Reuters interview, Wilson called the religious community in the United States a "powerful majority." The Southern Baptist Convention says on its Web site it has 16 million members in 42,000 churches.
Wilson is no longer one, having drifted away from religion in his youth. Wilson considers himself neither atheist nor agnostic but a "provisional deist."
"I'm willing to accept the possibility that there is some kind of intelligent force beyond our current understanding," he said.
As such he said he gets a "uniformly warm response" from Southern Baptists ministers, and sees mainstream public opinion as getting greener.
"The public opinion in the United States has become pastel
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What I've seen in Colorado Springs within the last year are some Evangelical leaders coming out as pro environment.

The notion that the Christian religion cannot support an environmental movement because it hasn't in the past ignores the whole history of that religion supporting things that were new in the past, such as its support for public hygiene circa 1880.
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E.O. Wilson says that both science and religion can work together to save the envirorment in the above article. Do you feel the two can ever work in mutual agreeement on perserving the envirorment and if so how?
It's too late already.

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The notion that the Christian religion cannot support an environmental movement because it hasn't in the past ignores the whole history of that religion supporting things that were new in the past, such as its support for public hygiene circa 1880.
It most certainly CAN, and I hope that it will. But at present, the anti-envyronmenatlists are gernally thumping the drum of Christianity pretty loudly.
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I think in the bible says The earth is created for man and We can do whatever we damn well feel like with it.
or something to that effect
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