The Question Of Euthanasia (moral, gospel, Deist, choice, mission)

[The Voice of Reason]

Originally Posted by oisin3

The Catholic church is guilty of mass murder and rape of little children in Ireland.

Oisin -
I'm not Catholic - many on here are. I'm sure they will want to defend their Church, but I cannot let this go unanswered. The Catholic Church has never raped anybody or anything. It is an institution. People that attend church in Catholic churches and subscribe to that particular religious dogma may be guilt of rape and mass murder, but the Church itself cannot possible commit those (or any other) acts. Mother Teresa did a life's work in charitable causes - not the Catholic Church.

Originally Posted by oisin3

Euthanasia will be brought in by governments in the EU and elsewhere. Its nothing new. The Nazis did it back in the 1930s

What makes you say this? Is something brewing that I am unaware of? If you have some type of evidence, please share it.
Thanks,
TVOR

[Vianne]

Assuming you yourself are Catholic, Scott, or have a general understanding of the Catholic mindset ... since evangelism is a big part of the Christian mindset, wouldn't this be like saying, no, these rules aren't for you, since you're not part of the Church ... but we think you really should give up your way of life and become part of the Church, because any other belief structure is wrong ... at which point these rules will be for you.

You're sinning either way, right?

[Scott1]

Vianne,

Assuming you yourself are Catholic

Assume no more: I am.

but we think you really should give up your way of life and become part of the Church, because any other belief structure is wrong

Well, I must say that I'm having a hard time understanding your post.....

....but, I will say that I don't claim that other belief structures are wrong. Never have.... or are you just making an assumption for arguments sake?

You're sinning either way, right?

Not at all.... I think. I really am confused about what your point is. The Catholic Church has a right to teach it's members.... I don't think anyone will question that...right?

[Lintu]

Originally Posted by oisin3

Euthanasia will be brought in by governments in the EU and elsewhere. Its nothing new. The Nazis did it back in the 1930s

Euthanasia in the sense of what the Nazis did is pretty much just a euphamism for murder. The people who were euthanized in the 30s did not elect to have their lives ended.

[Druidus]

I wrote an awesome report on this! I'll try to condense it into basic points, because I typed it on a school computer and don't have it here.


Euthanesia should be legal under certain conditions.

Condition 1:

Person must have either an incurable disease, or a disease that is incurable due to it's advanced state.

Condition 2:

The person must consent fully to it.

Condition 3:

The case must be brought before a council of doctors, from different backgrounds and religions. They will vote, and decide if she can be euthanized, depending on her chances of survival.

Condition 4:

The person must be completely aware, completely sane, and off drugs (besides medical) for at least 96 hours before making her decision.

Condition 5:

The person will not be under any other's influence.

Condition 6:

The person will pay a small fee, to cover part of the cost.

If the person is unconscious, it gets a bit more convoluted.

Condition 1:

If the person is in a coma, and has been for at least three years, her immediate family may choose to allow her to be euthanized.

Condition 2:

The hierarchy of who has the greatest power over her life goes like this:

Husband/Wife (In the case of homosexual lovers who may or may not be considered married, they still get to choose)
Children (If grown)
Parents
Siblings
Aunts/Uncles
Close Friends

Condition 3:

The case will come before the council. The council will decide her chance of regaining consciousness, and will choose whether or not euthanesia is allowed.

Condition 4:

If one of the members has a large amount of life insurence taken out on her, this will be taken into account by the council.

Condition 5:

A small fee will be payed by those requesting the euthanesia.



Of course, there was much more, and it was more articulated, in the full essay. I'm almost sure I missed stuff.