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Old 08-23-2006, 10:43 PM
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It was a criticism of a criticism. This does not make the opposite of the original criticism true.

Science can't tell us why we are here. This should not be a criticism of it, since it never claimed to.
Ugh, and too often do I hear that criticism. It's like complaining that Historians don't paint. Of course they don't. They're historians, not painters. Scientists won't tell you why people are here (Perhaps quantum physics can someday, in the extremely far future, hint to it), but that doesn't mean you can just ignore it.
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Old 08-24-2006, 10:04 AM
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...I stand behind my opinion that Cruise's opinions of science are crap.
As do I. However last time I said 'crap' I got my post deleted.

Anyway, these crazy criticisms.

1. The purpose of science is to discredit religion.

2. Science is just an atheist religion. Often in the same sentence as the first objection.

3. Science can't tell us anything for certain, it's all just theories. This is the IDer jewel in the crown.
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Old 08-24-2006, 11:11 AM
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And also the notion that science is simply a collection of facts, as opposed to a process...
Frubals for that astute observation. The notion that science is just a collection of facts is right up there with the notion that scientists are all mad folk who live in medieval towers.
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Old 08-25-2006, 08:49 AM
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Frubals for that astute observation. The notion that science is just a collection of facts is right up there with the notion that scientists are all mad folk who live in medieval towers.
You mean they're not?! But what will all the Igors do?
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Old 08-25-2006, 08:53 AM
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Mr. Cruise simply doesn't care how many people believe his crap that might otherwise get treatment for curable or manageable disorders.
I bet he's thinking about it now he's been dropped by the studio.
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3. Science can't tell us anything for certain, it's all just theories. This is the IDer jewel in the crown.
Whilst this is a criticism of science, I wouldn't call it crazy but entirely accurate. It is perhaps more of an observation than a criticism and when some people, such as IDers, use it as such then it certainly is crazy.

The converse claim about science is perhaps even more crazy, however.
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Whilst this is a criticism of science, I wouldn't call it crazy but entirely accurate. It is perhaps more of an observation than a criticism and when some people, such as IDers, use it as such then it certainly is crazy.
I suppose it's only crazy in the context that science can't be trusted because it's not certain.
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You should report me if you think I'm over the line, Paul, and let the mods sort it out. Until and unless they call me on it, I stand behind my opinion that Cruise's opinions of science are crap.
hel...i mean heck, heck yeah, sorry man, I'll back you up fully with this one, but I'm not on the stand here.
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