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Old 06-14-2006, 09:01 AM
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We know Ultimate Reality through mathematics and experimental physics. Relativity theory, Quantam mechanics, String theory, &c.
We can't know ultimate reality from both relativity and quantum mechanics. They have different descriptions of what the Universe is at a fundamental level.
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Old 06-14-2006, 09:27 AM
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Good point.
Understanding of Reality is an ongoing process. The TOE seeks to unite relitivity and quantum theories.
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Old 10-04-2006, 02:18 PM
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I find it easier to explain, if the sun goes up and down, if gravity is still here, the ultimate reality is controlling all of this, this is no natrul thing that happens, god lets air blow water flow blah blah...
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Old 10-04-2006, 05:00 PM
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I think the Ultimate Reality is a crytalisation of what is Real beyond the five senses through which we currently recieve input from the 3-D world. What that is need not be undiscoverable by Science through maths and physics.
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Old 10-04-2006, 07:08 PM
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What is Ultimate Reality?
I have no idea. Sounds like a TV show.

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How do we know that is so?
Dunno. Is it important?
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Old 10-04-2006, 07:40 PM
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Ultimate reality may never be determined due to the uncertainty principal. We also may be shielded from ultimate reality by only being privy to a small portion of it.
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Old 10-05-2006, 05:27 PM
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What is Ultimate Reality?
Whatever I say it is.

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How do we know that is so?
Because I say so.
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What is Ultimate Reality?
An unhelpful concept.
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Old 10-05-2006, 06:28 PM
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An unhelpful concept.
Coupled with an unhelpful reply for one who is seeking to know the truth of it?

You might have no interest in the search, Jay, or may have given up or chosen to sacrifice such ideas for more wordly, impermanent ones, but we can't all agree that the most worthwhile thing to do. What is the point of Science if not to uncover Ultimate Reality? Is not Nature the ultimate reality to a Naturalist?
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