Insurmountable Difficulties with Noah's Ark (Jesus, Earth, crucified, tradition)

[finalfrogo]

Originally Posted by CaptainXeroid

Since you hold yourself out to be interested in science, I'm sure you are aware that if the world's surface were smooth, the ocean would be about 2 miles deep. Now, unless you can prove exactly what the earth's topography was at the time of the flood, you cannot discount the possibility that it took much less water to completely cover the land masses. Hmmm....didn't think you could.

No, he cannot exactly describe the topography of the Earth at the time of the flood. Nor does he need to; the point remains that the amount of water for such a ridiculous occurence would be beyond the capabilities of the physical realm.

[Super Universe]

You don't have to believe that the story of Noah's ark is completely accurate to believe in God.

What's the real reason you don't believe?

[finalfrogo]

Originally Posted by CaptainXeroid

If that were true, what interest would you have in the exact details of the Biblical account of Noah??

Plenty. I have interest in the exact details of religions I do not belong to... I fail to see your point.

Originally Posted by CaptainXeroid

Logic suggests you may have doubts about your atheism. Good luck examining those doubts.

Logic does not apply in this way. You are saying this: If one has interest in other lifestyles, one is in doubt of his or her own. This statement is not logical, because there are multiple counterexamples, including the person posting this message.

[finalfrogo]

However, the boat was built by Noah, not God. Therefore, this point is still valid: How could one build an ark so big to contain all the species in the world within it? Impossible, for any human at least.

[finalfrogo]

Originally Posted by JesusIsGod

How did Noah gather all the animals from around the world?
There is a well known theory, and very plausible, that states that the earth was at one time a single land mass, this land mass is known as Pangea. Therefore, there would be no water barrier to overcome. If this theory is correct then Everest would not exist yet, and your calculations of 4 billion, billion, million cubic meters of water it would take to cover the earth would be wrong.

Pangea existed 200 million years ago. Humans have only existed for the past 100 thousand years ago. This theory is implausible.

Anyways, it's besides the point. It's not just about the physical barriers. How could one possibly gather every species in the entire world, when at least 8 million species are estimated to exist? And how would one fit them all into a single boat?

[finalfrogo]

Originally Posted by literal visionary

your not counting fish and bug and things that could have survived out side

Even so, his point still stands. Subtract fish and insects, and there would still be an absurd amount of organisms on board.

[finalfrogo]

Originally Posted by literal visionary

so there were that many different types of animals back then as there are today
there was like 1 or 2 sssmall species of cats,
not counting fish, and maybe he didn't let the dinosaurs on......

...where are you getting this quantity?

[finalfrogo]

Originally Posted by literal visionary

obviously your timing doesn't correlate to creationists theories.

So now Creationists are purposely denying scientific evidence to fit their own theories?

Originally Posted by literal visionary

so in the mind of the creationist it might be 1000 years, besides, they dont really know, they weren't there

Then how do you know anything in the Bible is true? You weren't there.
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[finalfrogo]

Isn't this a little off-topic? He's trying to show how the Ark story shouldn't be taken literally. He is not showing that God doesn't exist.

[finalfrogo]

Originally Posted by JesusIsGod

How did the ark maintain itself? all those faecies would have created poisonous gases...
????????????
faeces?-in bullfighting, the series of passes at the bull immediately before the kill, for displaying the matador's skill.
or
feces?-waste matter expelled from the bowels; excrement. I think you mean this but, feces from where??????
either way I dont understand what you mean!!!

This was a petty attack! You know exactly what he means!