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Old 11-19-2004, 08:08 AM
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What are your thoughts about how the Big Bang started?
I haven't a clue.
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Old 11-19-2004, 09:01 AM
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Are you an atheist?
Would you categorically deny that God created the universe?
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Yes, I am. No, I would not.
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Old 11-19-2004, 04:04 PM
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Firstly if you are an atheist, and you don't rule out God creating the universe, how does that work? Furthermore, would you also categorically deny that God takes personal interest in human beings? I just wondered that's all. I have never actually spoken to someone with your particular beliefs, although I have heard of them before.

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Old 11-19-2004, 04:30 PM
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Firstly if you are an atheist, and you don't rule out God creating the universe, how does that work? Furthermore, would you also categorically deny that God takes personal interest in human beings? I just wondered that's all. I have never actually spoken to someone with your particular beliefs, although I have heard of them before.

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You make me sound rather alien!

This is really best pursued as a topic in itself, but briefly ...

Other than a priori impossibilities, there is very little that can be categorically denied. Therefore, I do not categorically deny God(s), be they interpersonal or not. Likewise, I do not categorically deny the Daoine Sidhe. I simply state that I have seen nothing to suggest that these things, or an endless number of other logically coherent constructs, warrant belief.

Put somewhat differently, I choose to believe only in those things which are evidenced.

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Old 11-19-2004, 05:38 PM
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The method of science, the ability to acquire knowledge, does in fact prove the existence of the God of Abraham. Since science is a systematic study it can be applied to biblical study as well. The development of science depends extensively on the intuitive mode as well as analysis. Many prophets have made many perdictions of human events with exact detail. Lets say 100 perdictions were fullfilled 90 times containing truths and facts. The scientific method could acquire a general law that the knowledge of the fullfilled perdictions came from a higher source.
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The method of science, the ability to acquire knowledge, does in fact prove the existence of the God of Abraham.
No, it does not.

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Since science is a systematic study it can be applied to biblical study as well.
Yes, and you would do well to avail yourself of the various categories of peer-reviewed work. Sadly, you have demonstrably failed to do anything of the kind.

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The development of science depends extensively on the intuitive mode as well as analysis.
That is a formally nonsensical, and contectually irrelevant statement worthy of the source.

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Many prophets have made many perdictions of human events with exact detail.
One man's baseless belief is another man's rubbish.

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Lets say 100 perdictions were fullfilled 90 times containing truths and facts.
Let's say Pixie dust is good for constipation.

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The scientific method could acquire a general law that the knowledge of the fullfilled perdictions came from a higher source.
No, it could not. Need any Pixie dust?
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The reality is God exists. If we asked every single human on this planet whether they believed there is a God or not, the majority would answer yes. Therefore, via majority agreement, we have a reality. So even through scientific methods, God is proven.
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