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Old 06-19-2005, 08:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Deut. 32.8
Much of it is vague babble that accepts the Torah as history. To the extent that it avoids contradiction, it does so solely by virtue of being vague.
But isn't much of Biblical theology vague babble?
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One problem I see is that so many people treat science as if it is a tool to prove or disprove religion(s), and not as something that is separate from religion (which we all seem to have agreed upon). I see this as an unbalanced show of respect towards the two areas.
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There are scientific contradictions in any religious text. This does not invalidate the religion, but it does invalidate that part of the religion, scientifically.
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Much of it is vague babble that accepts the Torah as history. To the extent that it avoids contradiction, it does so solely by virtue of being vague.
But isn't much of Biblical theology vague babble?
Yes. Do you have a point? Have you ever compared, for example, the two creation accounts?
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But isn't much of Biblical theology vague babble?
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Have you ever compared, for example, the two creation accounts?
Gah, this again. In my opinion, there are not two creation accounts, there is a general overview(God creates, and it is good) and a more indepth discourse on the creation of mankind(dust and ribs, all that good stuff).

You may not accept my interpretation, but to state, as fact, that there are two creation accounts is distorting the situation.

The only division between science and religion is what people create.
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Much of it is vague babble that accepts the Torah as history. To the extent that it avoids contradiction, it does so solely by virtue of being vague.
I dint't Say "Torah". Thats old, only reason for it being old is its adulteration.
I said "Quran".
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There are scientific contradictions in any religious text. This does not invalidate the religion, but it does invalidate that part of the religion, scientifically.
Thats what I'm claiming. I myself am a devout christian. But till now neither me nor anyone else has been able to find out one scientific flaw in Quran.The whole idea of adding and deleting text in Bibble doesn't get through me. Thats vague, remarked INSANITY.
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Gah, this again. In my opinion, there are not two creation accounts, ...
If you had taken the time to both read and think about the posts in question, you would have realized that the two creation accounts referred to were those in the Torah and Quran.
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I dint't Say "Torah". Thats old, only reason for it being old is its adulteration. I said "Quran".
Read the sentence again.
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I have to agree with Scitsofreaky... many athiests use science as a club with which to try to bludgeon both God and religion to death. They accept nuances in a dead language as being the factual rendering of that text.
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