Intelligent Designer (ritual, Earth, beliefs, soul, Jehovah)

[KKawohl]

Why do people shy away from the concept of connecting an Intelligent Designer with evolution? Is it because of the bad reputation that many religions have created for the ID through their superstitions beliefs that are justifiably looked upon as mere myth by the scientific community? If that is the case, shouldn’t religions strive to promote that truthfulness and rationality in religions are truths that can be substantiated by science or those that can not be proven to be wrong. Spiritual interaction is only possible between spirits. Claims of supernatural acts performed by physical or spiritual beings in the physical universe are not truths.

The Intelligent Designer Proclaims:

I Am The Intelligent Designer.
I did not come from nowhere.
I play no magic tricks on man.
I did not create the earth by casting spells.
I had a humble beginning the same as man;
My beginning was at the dawn of spirituality.
My wisdom grows as more spirits unite
After the cessation of life after much physical strife.
Throughout time I have been named God,
Allah, Jehovah, The Great Spirit, and many more.
I do not judge man for his vanity or naivety
To be the one who claims to please me the most.
I am easy to please. I require very little.
I only want you to do what is best for mankind.
I will bless you and wish you well.
I will inspire your mind and you will
Accomplish the unfathomable.

I require no worship. I need nothing from man.
I am self sufficient. I am spirit.
Develop your spirit wisely, the best that you can.
Live your life for the betterment of man.
Your spirit will soon be with me and then
Together we will see and traverse the universe.
There are many wonders to behold,
Your spirit will soar.
You will partake in all the wisdom
That has been gathered from the beginning of time.
The stars will be your playground.
You can play with the animals,
Be with your loved ones,
Listen to the greatest opera,
Stage or musical performances,
Or you can just relax next to a bubbling brook
And enjoy the scenery.
You feel no pain, despair,
Heartache, or negative emotions.
You are now One with me.
You are with the SPIRITUAL UNITY my child.


My Spiritual Journey

Kurt

[EnhancedSpirit]

I like that. Welcome to the Forums, and watch out. This is a tough crowd sometimes.

[Tawn]

I agree with the sentiments. Evolution need not contend with ID. Which is why it is crazy for ID'ers to attack evolution. It does not strengthen their case.

[Jayhawker Soule]

Originally Posted by Tawn

I agree with the sentiments. Evolution need not contend with ID. Which is why it is crazy for ID'ers to attack evolution. It does not strengthen their case.

Not quite. Either one stipulates a designed teleological process which is just the opposite of evolution, or one posits a design which cleverly mimics the lack of one. Should one opt for the second approach and suggest that our Designer limited its effort to "first cause", with all else occuring 'naturally', arguments from complexity are rendered moot as ID is rendered superfluous.

[Bright-ness' Shadow]

Throughout time I have been named God,
Allah, Jehovah, The Great Spirit, and many more.

Atributing creation to a spirit does little to escape the difficulty of offering scientif proof of genisus. Whatever it's name, science has been narrowing the area in which this spirit operates or operated.

[KKawohl]

Originally Posted by pah

Atributing creation to a spirit does little to escape the difficulty of offering scientif proof of genisus. Whatever it's name, science has been narrowing the area in which this spirit operates or operated.

In recent years, we have learned that 95% of the Universe is made of a type of matter or energy that we cannot see nor understand. Gravity may ripple across the Universe in waves, and certain cosmic rays, atomic particles moving at near light speed, possess an energy far greater than that which can be explained by modern physics.

In the Theory of Relativity, the intuitive notion of time as an independent entity is replaced by the concept that space and time are intertwined and inseparable aspects of a four-dimensional universe, which is given the name space-time. Einstein sought unsuccessfully for many years to incorporate the theory into a unified field theory valid also for subatomic and electromagnetic phenomena. This is not feasible because any and all of our scientific data is applicable only to this physical third dimension.

Einstein also said "It seems to me that science not only purifies the religious impulse of the dross of its anthropomorphism but also contributes to a religious spiritualization of our understanding of life" Einstein refutes a personal God, which logic and rationality supports. He also said that God may very well be the energy that is in all matter and energy, that cannot be separated from matter/energy. I submit that what mankind calls God is the pure energy in the fourth dimension, the Progressive and Accumulative Spiritual Intelligence of the universe. Everything in the universe follows the universal laws which separate the physical and the spiritual existence. Energy is power, vigor, liveliness, intensity. It is a measurable quantity, without reference to its nature or source. Energy, or life is a fundamental attribute and function of the universe. Our bodies build up and harness a minute amount of

spiritual energy that is transferred into the spiritual dimension upon our death. Then this spiritual energy is limitless because it lacks resistance and this energy can assimilate as a unity or be separate and individual. It is this spiritual energy that mankind has called God. It is a composition of the spiritual intellect of the universe, of every soul that has passed from the physical universe into the spiritual universe. It can create a spiritual existence of beauty that is beyond the imagination…my spirit has experienced it.

The existence of a fourth dimension is still being vastly debated. If we represent thought and emotion which is not physical, as existing in space, we must then accept the existence of another, a fourth dimension where these processes thrive. Our Mind, Thought, Truth, Intuition, Intelligence, Appreciation and Awareness are all aspects of another dimension.

The universe is the encompassment of ALL (matter, energy, space, time) that exists in a physical, material, tangible or intangible, natural or unnatural state in this third dimension. Our subconscious contains the records of our life's experiences and is composed of consciousness, awareness, thoughts, and emotions. The physical composition is a mass of atoms. Emotion is the energy that drives the physical body. Energy is like electro-magnetic energy, or light. It is carried by photons; it can cross-convert back and forth with solid matter, according to the ratio E=MC2, and when in the energy form, its propagation speed is limited to C, which is the speed of light, approximately 300,000 km/sec.

With the evolution of life forms in the third dimension we can then deduct that the fourth dimension which is also considered the spiritual dimension came about through life in the third dimension. All of what we can presently see of the universe, its billions of stars, the galaxies, and other solar systems with its planets only represent less than 2% of the total existence of the universe. Did Life begin on earth? It is naive of us to assume that throughout the trillions of years past that life has only existed on our small world and therefore the fourth dimension, the spiritual existence came about through mankind.

Kurt

[Jayhawker Soule]

Originally Posted by KKawohl

It is naive of us to assume that throughout the trillions of years past that life has only existed on our small world and therefore the fourth dimension, the spiritual existence came about through mankind.

This sentence is meaningless.

[KKawohl]

[quote=Deut. 32.8]
Originally Posted by KKawohl
It is naive of us to assume that throughout the trillions of years past that life has only existed on our small world and therefore the fourth dimension, the spiritual existence came about through mankind.

Originally Posted by Deut. 32.8

This sentence is meaningless.

In order to intelligently appreciate something there has to be complete truth. Only when the truth behind the concept is known can one accurately judge the concept. Today, over 100 planets are known outside our solar system. There are billions of stars with numerous solar systems. Our knowledge of the universe is in its infancy. The spirit enlightens one in the mysteries of God and the universe.

In order to realistically interpret whether God created man or the beginning of God was the result of the consciousness of the first souls that survived physical death one has to start at the beginning of the universe. Conceptual time is interpreted as being continuous and infinite, having one irreversible dimension. The bonding of the first two righteous souls, the first reasoning entities, God, originated somewhere in the universe, on our earth or on a planet in another solar system, possibly billions of years ago. The bonding of the first two souls created spiritual unity which expanded and progressed, created Cumulative Intelligence, the Intelligent Designer.

Kurt

[Jayhawker Soule]

Originally Posted by KKawohl

In order to intelligently appreciate something there has to be complete truth.

That statement is equally meaningless and fully warrants its affective, diminutive format.

[KKawohl]

Originally Posted by Tawn

I agree with the sentiments. Evolution need not contend with ID. Which is why it is crazy for ID'ers to attack evolution. It does not strengthen their case.

We The People of this world hereby proclaim that forthwith we will use common sense in deciding whether to live in peace or die for a cause that history of future generations will wonder why the masses had been brainwashed by superstitions created by man about a God who was misunderstood by the masses of a bygone era.