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Old 04-28-2005, 09:22 PM
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Well I don't know if God can time travel because I don't even know He exists in the first place. On the other hand, humans I know with certainty, will possess the technology to time travel. It's not impossible, only improbable at the moment. Time travel is a really easy concept if you think about it, it's just all of the paradoxes that are confusing.
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Old 04-28-2005, 11:33 PM
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As others have noted ~ Since God is omni-everything, he doesn't need to time travel. He's already then and there
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Old 04-29-2005, 11:37 PM
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I do not believe that the question makes sense for God the father, since He exists outside of the bounds of space and time--as Snowbear says, he is already then and there. Also, according to relativity, in order to have a frame of reference with past, present and future, you would need to have a position in space. So God would have to be a physical object, like a tree or a person for the question to make sense.

However, it seems legitimate to ask could God time travel if He was incarnated as a human (such as Jesus Christ)?

To me, this question can only be answered by the following question: does the nature of spacetime allow time travel? If it does, then I believe God could. However, if it does not, then God would have to alter the nature of spacetime, in which case He would no longer be travelling in what we know as "time", but something different.
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i think that god wouldn't have a need for time and space travel. if you believe in THE god (whichever that may be) then there would be no need for time and space travel because he would have already finished writing his book of life in the stars on how all people to come and have come would and have lived.
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If there was a god, I think it would be subject to natural law. If a god can break natural law, then that opens the door for all kinds of supernatural events such as ghosts, levitation and ESP. Which I do not think are possible.
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Well I don't know if God can time travel because I don't even know He exists in the first place. On the other hand, humans I know with certainty, will possess the technology to time travel. It's not impossible, only improbable at the moment. Time travel is a really easy concept if you think about it, it's just all of the paradoxes that are confusing.
It is that paradox thing that ends up biting this whole thing in the "end". The catch 22 is this...to time travel to the past anything you would do would affect the future...your present. If you were to go back to accomplish a goal it would never work...for the whole reason you went back in the first place was to correct or change something...if you did, then the problem wouldn't exist in your present to even make you want to go back...see what I'm getting at? Without the problem to make you go back you wouldn't go back...catch 22. Hell, it's hard to explain...just watch The Time Machine...it explains it very well.

Along those lines of thinking...wouldn't the same apply to a Divine? What I said earlier is that the Divine exists throughout all time...but as for traveling through time...assuming that is that we ARE the present time ...wouldn't the same catch 22 apply?
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I guess that you are all missing out on one point (which will obviously not apply to atheists) - but God created everything - and that would include time. Kind of makes the question 'Can God time travel' a bit redundant in my books
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I would think that GOD has a tremendous memory capacity and a cohesive insight rather than have to resort to such means as traveling through time. Besides, I cannot think of one reason why GOD would want to.
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I would think that GOD has a tremendous memory capacity and a cohesive insight rather than have to resort to such means as traveling through time. Besides, I cannot think of one reason why GOD would want to.
I'm with you on this one, Carrdero; besides, who would pack his suitcases ? - I'm sure he wouldn't have to do that himself. Maybe there's a saint of suitcase packing ?
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I have to ask you Michel, did a god have to create time, could time have always existed without a creator?
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