Where is Heaven ? (Earth, reincarnation, beliefs, hell, after life)

[Ori]

Only inside of you. Heaven can be anywhere, as long as you have hope.

[SarahBeara]

My personal belief is that there is no physical location of heaven. I believe that the physical world exists because God created it, and when we die, we leave this physical plane. I don't know where we go from there, but it's some place where we are close to God, aka heaven.

[robtex]

Originally Posted by SarahBeara

My personal belief is that there is no physical location of heaven. I believe that the physical world exists because God created it, and when we die, we leave this physical plane. I don't know where we go from there, but it's some place where we are close to God, aka heaven.

Can you back that up with scipture?

[Halcyon]

According to some sources there are 7 heavens and 7 Earths/hells, each heaven is ruled over by different races of angels, Seraphim, Cherubim, Powers etc. God's seat is in the seventh heaven, but the dead go to one of the others, the 3rd i think, so never actually get to meet God, the only ones who ever get to commune with God in person are the Seraphim.

http://www.steliart.com/angelology_7_heavens.html

[robtex]

Halcyon I just went to biblegateway.com and ran some of the words through their search engine on the NIV version of the Bible. The two angels of the 7 th heaven zeburial and turtbebial are not in there nor is the word Cassiel which is the angel said to rule that heaven. I didn't find:

shamayim or shamain in the first heaven
raquia or raqia in the 2nd
sagun or shehaquim in the 3rd either in a search.

I did find the word zebul (6th heaven) but he was a human governer of a city called shechem and is mentioned in judges 9:30.

The 4th heaven interestingly is called machen which is german for make . There was no german text of the bible until the gutternberg from my understanding which was written in the 1400's.

Yiddish and german sound really similar but yiddish is associated with judaism which from my understanding, has no belief in heaven.

I am thining that webpage did not use the bible as a source for its info.

[SarahBeara]

Originally Posted by robtex

Can you back that up with scipture?

No I cannot. I haven't read the bible a whole lot, so I'm not even sure what the bible says about the location of heaven.

[Scott1]

My view on heaven is from the Catechism of the Catholic Church:

"Heaven" does not refer to a place but to God's majesty and his presence in the hearts of the just. Heaven, the Father's house, is the true homeland toward which we are heading and to which, already, we belong.

[Halcyon]

Originally Posted by robtex

Halcyon I just went to biblegateway.com and ran some of the words through their search engine on the NIV version of the Bible. The two angels of the 7 th heaven zeburial and turtbebial are not in there nor is the word Cassiel which is the angel said to rule that heaven. I didn't find:

shamayim or shamain in the first heaven
raquia or raqia in the 2nd
sagun or shehaquim in the 3rd either in a search.

I did find the word zebul (6th heaven) but he was a human governer of a city called shechem and is mentioned in judges 9:30.

The 4th heaven interestingly is called machen which is german for make . There was no german text of the bible until the gutternberg from my understanding which was written in the 1400's.

Yiddish and german sound really similar but yiddish is associated with judaism which from my understanding, has no belief in heaven.

I am thining that webpage did not use the bible as a source for its info.

Lol, i dunno. I think a lot of that sort of stuff, hierarchy of angels etc isn't in the bible anyway, it was made up/divinely inspired by later scholars.

[jewscout]

i'm not to sure about heaven...
but i do know where hell is!

http://www.mapquest.com/maps/map.adp...searchtab=home

[jimbob]

i think it isn't really a physicall place. If our souls/spirits/ghosts(whatever you wanta call them)go somewhere, it's probably not a place where there is physical being. of course, i could be wrong, sicne i have no clue where heaven or hell is.