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Old 03-07-2005, 11:35 AM
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Default God and the 2nd law of Thermodynamics

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This is my first official post, so please feel free ot introduce yourself as well as answer the post.

The 2nd law of thermodynamics states that entropy is always increasing. Entropy is defined as "The amount of disorder or randomness in a system". So nature (the universe) always goes from order to disorder. There are no exceptions to this rule of science.

The first life form ever created was a very ordered and complex being. So disordered chemicals going to ordered life is not possible by natural causes, as it violates the 2nd law of thermodynamics. Some kind of intelligence had to do it.
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Welcome to the forums... Deut 32:8 should be along shortly to illuminate the discrepencies of your approach. Enjoy! And welcome to the forums!
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Welcome to the forums... Deut 32:8 should be along shortly to illuminate the discrepencies of your approach. Enjoy! And welcome to the forums!
Thanks! I just realized that there was a debate area, so i shouldn't have posted that in the atheist forum. Sorry, didn't mean to cramp your non-believing!
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Old 03-07-2005, 12:27 PM
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I missed the thread location as well... and also believe!

That doesn't mean that there aren't holes in your theory.
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If you have an exception to the 2nd law of thermodynamics, I'll see you on the cover of Time magazine, winning a whole bunch of awards!
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Thanks Maize!

Actually Geoman, it's not that I disagree with the second law, but with your premise that life and/or evolution are in spite of it. That's like equating the first law with the creation of a new product or species. It's a non sequiter. But don't worry, I made the same mistake not so long ago. It never hurt my faith, but on the contrary, helped me to more clearly understand it.
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Hello all!

This is my first official post, so please feel free ot introduce yourself as well as answer the post.

The 2nd law of thermodynamics states that entropy is always increasing. Entropy is defined as "The amount of disorder or randomness in a system". So nature (the universe) always goes from order to disorder. There are no exceptions to this rule of science.

The first life form ever created was a very ordered and complex being. So disordered chemicals going to ordered life is not possible by natural causes, as it violates the 2nd law of thermodynamics. Some kind of intelligence had to do it.
I guess you could say going from an amoeba to a complex human is disorderly.
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If you have an exception to the 2nd law of thermodynamics, I'll see you on the cover of Time magazine, winning a whole bunch of awards!
Outstanding! You have discovered the critical flaw, the glaring fault, the gaping defect hitherto unnoticed (or cleverly conceiled!) by the world's entire scientific community. It has clearly been overlooked by the National Accademy of Sciences, the editors of Nature, the Science Departments of our great institutes of learning, not to mention the peer review apparatus that serves as the tapestry upon which mankind's science stands. Yet you come here ready and willing to proclaim that the Emperor is start naked and ******* in the wind. What remarkable accuity ...

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Outstanding! You have discovered the critical flaw, the glaring fault, the gaping defect hitherto unnoticed (or cleverly conceiled!) by the world's entire scientific community. It has clearly been overlooked by the National Accademy of Sciences, the editors of Nature, the Science Departments of our great institutes of learning, not to mention the peer review apparatus that serves as the tapestry upon which mankind's science stands. Yet you come here ready and willing to proclaim that the Emperor is start naked and ******* in the wind. What remarkable accuity ...

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Welcome Geoman 076; hope you enjoy the forum. Deut, you must be praised (if i'm allowed to use that word with you) for your consistency!
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