Voters in South East South Dakota Vote to Build Oil Refinery (verse, Articles)

[zippythepinhead]

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[wednesday]

Instead of feeding the global crisis, they should invest that waste of money in alternative energy resources, or fund scientific research in alternative fuels for transport.
I feel that increasing the oil output will in the end result in more economic ruin when the oil supply finally stops.
If they think that another refinery will reduce petrol rpices i think they'll find they're wrong, sadly as the world has definately reached the current peak oil and production will only slow

[Seyorni]

Isn't S. Dakota awefully far from any source of raw petroleum, including Alberta's oil sands?
It seems an odd location, to me.

[zippythepinhead]

Originally Posted by Seyorni

Isn't S. Dakota awefully far from any source of raw petroleum, including Alberta's oil sands?
It seems an odd location, to me.

Who knows. They can truck it in and refine it.

[zippythepinhead]

Originally Posted by wednesday

Instead of feeding the global crisis, they should invest that waste of money in alternative energy resources, or fund scientific research in alternative fuels for transport.
I feel that increasing the oil output will in the end result in more economic ruin when the oil supply finally stops.
If they think that another refinery will reduce petrol rpices i think they'll find they're wrong, sadly as the world has definately reached the current peak oil and production will only slow

Investing in alternative is great. But we need to drill for oil and refine it domestically. We have enough energy in all its forms to fuel our economy and help the global one. We don't have the luxury of sitting back and waiting for the hydro car to come online. We need fossil fuels and alternatives we can use now.

[Seyorni]

We have quite a few alternatives already, Zippy. We just lack the incentive to make a serious effort. We tend to wait for a crisis before we get off our butts and act.
Big oil's not going to last that much longer, especially with China and India beginning to adopt our Western lifestyle. We can begin now and make a smooth transition or we can wait for a crisis, errr.. a bigger crisis.

As far as your hydro car goes, we could probably double the average mileage of a typical car dealer's inventory simply by exchanging it for a typical European dealer's. No fancy technology needed. Heck back in the early 80s, Datsun's B-210 fastback got 50 MPG, and this was a primative car by today's standards.
The BBC sent a reporter to Wolfsberg, or wherever Volkswagen makes its Polo line, a few years ago to buy a Blue Motion model and drive it back to London. It averaged 70 MPG -- and no fancy hybrid tech -- just a straight Diesel.

[zippythepinhead]

Originally Posted by Seyorni

We have quite a few alternatives already, Zippy. We just lack the incentive to make a serious effort. We tend to wait for a crisis before we get off our butts and act.
Big oil's not going to last that much longer, especially with China and India beginning to adopt our Western lifestyle. We can begin now and make a smooth transition or we can wait for a crisis, errr.. a bigger crisis.

As far as your hydro car goes, we could probably double the average mileage of a typical car dealer's inventory simply by exchanging it for a typical European dealer's. No fancy technology needed. Heck back in the early 80s, Datsun's B-210 fastback got 50 MPG, and this was a primative car by today's standards.
The BBC sent a reporter to Wolfsberg, or wherever Volkswagen makes its Polo line, a few years ago to buy a Blue Motion model and drive it back to London. It averaged 70 MPG -- and no fancy hybrid tech -- just a straight Diesel.

I remember the Datsun b 210 because I used to drive one. Those were the days. I believe that we need to bring all fossil and non fossil alternatives on line for consumption. We can't have the so called "environmentalists" dictate our energy policies. If we don't have a diverse portfolio from hydrogen to gasoline, coal to methane we will be screwed.