Has anyone seen this new theory on galaxy formation? (evolution, creation)

[Panda]

A common theory was galaxy formation is that a supermassive black hole is at the centre of every galaxy. However one problem with this theory is that for a black hole of 105 - 109 solar masses to form this could not happen in the first billion years or so when galaxies form. An old model of star that is bigger than a Hypergiant Star. This star would be so large that the heat energy produced by the star would not be enough to counter the gravitational pull, thus the core collapses. However as the core collapses it does not blow off it's outer shell. Instead this outer shell stays around the newly formed black hole in it's centre. You now have a black hole with this massive amount of mass around it to feed and increase it's size. In this way it is believed a supermassive black hole could form in the first billion years to fit with galaxy formation.

Does anyone have more information than this or can someone correct mistakes I have made? I can't remember where I found the article on this.

[YmirGF]

Originally Posted by Panda

Does anyone have more information than this or can someone correct mistakes I have made? I can't remember where I found the article on this.

I have speculated about this myself but I doubt you are too interested in that, lol.

I did find this interesting link, though

Space: Super-massive black hole

[Panda]

Please share. And that was the sort of black hole this was theorising could happen.

[YmirGF]

Originally Posted by Panda

Please share. And that was the sort of black hole this was theorising could happen.

I have to admit, after re-reading it, there are a few weaknesses that I now perceive but I am still happy with the black hole theory.

12-03-2006, 01:54 PM - A fool's view of "Creation"

This little essay began with a very intense meditation that left me reeling for several days. I still rather like the quote below. What I perceived was like metal bending and buckling under water, like the hull of a massive submarine caving in, although of course I was imagining an impossibly large black hole, not a sub. It kept folding in on itself, buckling until for an instant it was not there... then it exploaded.

As all elementary particles were absorbed, this black hole grew to immense proportions, ran out of available residual matter and then hit critical mass because it began to consume itself, or "fold" in or "cave in" on itself. At a given point its density became such that it could not continue and then exploded, creating the physical universe we now enjoy. This “bending” “feature” created time and space from the raw fabric of reality, by essentially “ripping us a new one”, as it were. Creation, as perceived by science essentially takes the ball from the point of the explosion. Evolution “occurred” much later, once everything had cooled off.

[Panda]

Originally Posted by YmirGF

I have to admit, after re-reading it, there are a few weaknesses that I now perceive but I am still happy with the black hole theory.

12-03-2006, 01:54 PM - A fool's view of "Creation"

This little essay began with a very intense meditation that left me reeling for several days. I still rather like the quote below. What I perceived was like metal bending and buckling under water, like the hull of a massive submarine caving in, although of course I was imagining an impossibly large black hole, not a sub. It kept folding in on itself, buckling until for an instant it was not there... then it exploaded.

Please point out the flaws and why there are flaws, as I know that my original post was just the basics that I remembered from an article I read and is likely to have mistakes.

Originally Posted by YmirGF

As all elementary particles were absorbed, this black hole grew to immense proportions, ran out of available residual matter and then hit critical mass because it began to consume itself, or "fold" in or "cave in" on itself. At a given point its density became such that it could not continue and then exploded, creating the physical universe we now enjoy. This “bending” “feature” created time and space from the raw fabric of reality, by essentially “ripping us a new one”, as it were. Creation, as perceived by science essentially takes the ball from the point of the explosion. Evolution “occurred” much later, once everything had cooled off.

To address this I would have to say that the formation of a black hole is when critical mass is reached. Before I go through this I take it you do not mean an actual black hole?