Religious Education Forum  

Welcome Guest to ReligiousForums.com . You are currently not registered. When you become registered you will be able to interact with our large base of already registered users discussing topics. Some annoying Ads will also disappear when you register. Registering doesn't cost a thing and only takes a few seconds. We provide areas to chat and debate all World Religions. Please go to our register page!
Home Who's Online Today's Posts Mark Forums Read
Go Back   Religious Education Forum / Religious Topics / Religious Debates / Science and Religion
Sitemap Popular RF Forums REGISTER Search Mark Forums Read

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #21  
Old 05-22-2012, 12:13 PM
tumbleweed41's Avatar
tumbleweed41 Offline
Religion: Modern Deist/UU
Title:Resident Liberal Hippie
Shield of Knowledge: Awarded for outstanding demonstration of high knowledge in a particular field - Issue reason:  Shield of Labour: Awarded for admirable hard work and development of a cause - Issue reason: Excellent work, fair, level-headedness Shield of 10,000 Thoughts: Awarded for contributing 10,000 posts - Issue reason: for posting 10,000+ posts 
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Colorado Springs
Gender: Male
Posts: 19,883
Frubals: 35212473
tumbleweed41 uses only the freshest cage-free frubalstumbleweed41 uses only the freshest cage-free frubalstumbleweed41 uses only the freshest cage-free frubals
tumbleweed41 uses only the freshest cage-free frubalstumbleweed41 uses only the freshest cage-free frubalstumbleweed41 uses only the freshest cage-free frubalstumbleweed41 uses only the freshest cage-free frubalstumbleweed41 uses only the freshest cage-free frubalstumbleweed41 uses only the freshest cage-free frubalstumbleweed41 uses only the freshest cage-free frubalstumbleweed41 uses only the freshest cage-free frubalstumbleweed41 uses only the freshest cage-free frubalstumbleweed41 uses only the freshest cage-free frubalstumbleweed41 uses only the freshest cage-free frubalstumbleweed41 uses only the freshest cage-free frubalstumbleweed41 uses only the freshest cage-free frubalstumbleweed41 uses only the freshest cage-free frubalstumbleweed41 uses only the freshest cage-free frubalstumbleweed41 uses only the freshest cage-free frubalstumbleweed41 uses only the freshest cage-free frubalstumbleweed41 uses only the freshest cage-free frubalstumbleweed41 uses only the freshest cage-free frubalstumbleweed41 uses only the freshest cage-free frubalstumbleweed41 uses only the freshest cage-free frubalstumbleweed41 uses only the freshest cage-free frubalstumbleweed41 uses only the freshest cage-free frubalstumbleweed41 uses only the freshest cage-free frubalstumbleweed41 uses only the freshest cage-free frubalstumbleweed41 uses only the freshest cage-free frubals
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Vadergirl123 View Post
Or it could be that God knows all the answers because he created the earth.
And how would one verify that God has all the answers?

I know your answer. The Bible.

Unfortunately, the Bible is not a science book. As evidenced by the many unscientific assertions.

But if you want to use it as a tool to better understand your God, that makes more sense than attempting to is it as a tool of science.

Personally, I find that understanding more about the natural workings of our universe brings me closer to an admittedly limited understanding of God.
__________________

Living in harmony with reality.
Reply With Quote
  #22  
Old 05-22-2012, 12:17 PM
Me Myself Offline
Religion: what?
Title:Back to my username
Shield of 10,000 Thoughts: Awarded for contributing 10,000 posts - Issue reason: For contributing 10,000 amazing posts! 
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Guayaquil, Ecuador
Gender: Male
Posts: 13,168
Frubals: 661
Me Myself has a pet name for each frubal.Me Myself has a pet name for each frubal.Me Myself has a pet name for each frubal.Me Myself has a pet name for each frubal.
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Vadergirl123 View Post
Why do you think that?
I am just throwing an unfounded hypothesis just like you did.
__________________
Comprehension cannot be explained. Just inspired.
Reply With Quote
  #23  
Old 05-22-2012, 12:23 PM
InvestigateTruth's Avatar
Religion: Baha'i
Title:Uber Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Canada
Gender: Male
Posts: 2,279
Frubals: 44
InvestigateTruth is an unknown quantity at this point
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by johnhanks View Post
Hmm. "Your explanation has gaps in it - so my explanation must be correct!" No flaws there, in your opinion?
Well, "Science" means to know and be able to explain exactly how something is done. If it cannot explain completely, I don't think it can claim, that it doesn't require God. It would be correct to say, we don't know if God did it or not.
Reply With Quote
  #24  
Old 05-22-2012, 12:30 PM
tumbleweed41's Avatar
tumbleweed41 Offline
Religion: Modern Deist/UU
Title:Resident Liberal Hippie
Shield of Knowledge: Awarded for outstanding demonstration of high knowledge in a particular field - Issue reason:  Shield of Labour: Awarded for admirable hard work and development of a cause - Issue reason: Excellent work, fair, level-headedness Shield of 10,000 Thoughts: Awarded for contributing 10,000 posts - Issue reason: for posting 10,000+ posts 
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Colorado Springs
Gender: Male
Posts: 19,883
Frubals: 35212473
tumbleweed41 uses only the freshest cage-free frubalstumbleweed41 uses only the freshest cage-free frubalstumbleweed41 uses only the freshest cage-free frubals
tumbleweed41 uses only the freshest cage-free frubalstumbleweed41 uses only the freshest cage-free frubalstumbleweed41 uses only the freshest cage-free frubalstumbleweed41 uses only the freshest cage-free frubalstumbleweed41 uses only the freshest cage-free frubalstumbleweed41 uses only the freshest cage-free frubalstumbleweed41 uses only the freshest cage-free frubalstumbleweed41 uses only the freshest cage-free frubalstumbleweed41 uses only the freshest cage-free frubalstumbleweed41 uses only the freshest cage-free frubalstumbleweed41 uses only the freshest cage-free frubalstumbleweed41 uses only the freshest cage-free frubalstumbleweed41 uses only the freshest cage-free frubalstumbleweed41 uses only the freshest cage-free frubalstumbleweed41 uses only the freshest cage-free frubalstumbleweed41 uses only the freshest cage-free frubalstumbleweed41 uses only the freshest cage-free frubalstumbleweed41 uses only the freshest cage-free frubalstumbleweed41 uses only the freshest cage-free frubalstumbleweed41 uses only the freshest cage-free frubalstumbleweed41 uses only the freshest cage-free frubalstumbleweed41 uses only the freshest cage-free frubalstumbleweed41 uses only the freshest cage-free frubalstumbleweed41 uses only the freshest cage-free frubalstumbleweed41 uses only the freshest cage-free frubalstumbleweed41 uses only the freshest cage-free frubals
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by InvestigateTruth View Post
Well, "Science" means to know and be able to explain exactly how something is done.
No, it does not.

Science finds answers and exposes more questions.

Think of it this way.
A child knows little, and has many questions. As you answer each question, the child learns more and has more questions based on your answers.
__________________

Living in harmony with reality.
Reply With Quote
  #25  
Old 05-22-2012, 01:12 PM
Vadergirl123 Offline
Title:Junior Member
 
Join Date: May 2012
Gender: Female
Posts: 904
Frubals: 19
Vadergirl123 is an unknown quantity at this point
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Me Myself View Post
I am just throwing an unfounded hypothesis just like you did.
Not really, there's evidence for things about the earth, which are based off what the bible says. On the other hand there's NO REASON to believe unicorns created the earth.
Reply With Quote
  #26  
Old 05-22-2012, 01:16 PM
Vadergirl123 Offline
Title:Junior Member
 
Join Date: May 2012
Gender: Female
Posts: 904
Frubals: 19
Vadergirl123 is an unknown quantity at this point
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by tumbleweed41 View Post
Unfortunately, the Bible is not a science book. As evidenced by the many unscientific assertions.
Define science? The bible doens't make any unscientific claims. However there are scientists who make wrong assertions.

Quote:
Originally Posted by tumbleweed41 View Post
But if you want to use it as a tool to better understand your God, that makes more sense than attempting to is it as a tool of science.
Yep the bible can be used for that too.

Quote:
Originally Posted by tumbleweed41 View Post
Personally, I find that understanding more about the natural workings of our universe brings me closer to an admittedly limited understanding of God.
I agree
Reply With Quote
  #27  
Old 05-22-2012, 01:18 PM
idav's Avatar
idav Online!
Religion: Pantheist
Title:Lofty Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Gender: Male
Posts: 6,431
Frubals: 238
idav gives frubals to the homelessidav gives frubals to the homeless
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by InvestigateTruth View Post
But Science has not been able to fully explain how the world came to how it is right now. How could it be said that God is not necessary for the world, when science has been only providing some explaination upto a certain point? Infact, not only this, but also the science cannot fully understand the most insignificant of creatures.
Science hasn't fully explained everything but they have been explaining enough to satisfy many curiosities. Up to a certain point, sure, we can only explain as much as factual knowledge will allow. What I see with many theists is that the only place left for god is prior to the big bang since it is an unknown for science so there are many theists who stick to that.
Reply With Quote
  #28  
Old 05-22-2012, 01:19 PM
idav's Avatar
idav Online!
Religion: Pantheist
Title:Lofty Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Gender: Male
Posts: 6,431
Frubals: 238
idav gives frubals to the homelessidav gives frubals to the homeless
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by InvestigateTruth View Post
It would be correct to say, we don't know if God did it or not.
Yes but we don't even know if God is a necessity or even possible. We don't know what did it is a more accurate statement. Throwing god in there makes it a loaded question.
Reply With Quote
  #29  
Old 05-22-2012, 01:20 PM
Jayhawker Soule's Avatar
Jayhawker Soule Offline
Religion: Judaism
Title:Exquisite Member
Shield of Knowledge: Awarded for outstanding demonstration of high knowledge in a particular field - Issue reason:  Shield of 20,000 Thoughts: Awarded for contributing 20,000 posts - Issue reason: For over 20,000 posts. Congrats Jay.  :) 
 
Join Date: May 2004
Gender: Male
Posts: 23,817
Frubals: 13302749
Jayhawker Soule tries counting frubals to get to sleep but only ends up more aroused
Jayhawker Soule tries counting frubals to get to sleep but only ends up more arousedJayhawker Soule tries counting frubals to get to sleep but only ends up more arousedJayhawker Soule tries counting frubals to get to sleep but only ends up more arousedJayhawker Soule tries counting frubals to get to sleep but only ends up more arousedJayhawker Soule tries counting frubals to get to sleep but only ends up more arousedJayhawker Soule tries counting frubals to get to sleep but only ends up more arousedJayhawker Soule tries counting frubals to get to sleep but only ends up more arousedJayhawker Soule tries counting frubals to get to sleep but only ends up more arousedJayhawker Soule tries counting frubals to get to sleep but only ends up more arousedJayhawker Soule tries counting frubals to get to sleep but only ends up more arousedJayhawker Soule tries counting frubals to get to sleep but only ends up more arousedJayhawker Soule tries counting frubals to get to sleep but only ends up more arousedJayhawker Soule tries counting frubals to get to sleep but only ends up more arousedJayhawker Soule tries counting frubals to get to sleep but only ends up more arousedJayhawker Soule tries counting frubals to get to sleep but only ends up more arousedJayhawker Soule tries counting frubals to get to sleep but only ends up more arousedJayhawker Soule tries counting frubals to get to sleep but only ends up more arousedJayhawker Soule tries counting frubals to get to sleep but only ends up more arousedJayhawker Soule tries counting frubals to get to sleep but only ends up more arousedJayhawker Soule tries counting frubals to get to sleep but only ends up more arousedJayhawker Soule tries counting frubals to get to sleep but only ends up more arousedJayhawker Soule tries counting frubals to get to sleep but only ends up more arousedJayhawker Soule tries counting frubals to get to sleep but only ends up more arousedJayhawker Soule tries counting frubals to get to sleep but only ends up more aroused
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Vadergirl123 View Post
Define science? The bible doens't make any unscientific claims.
In fact, the bible makes no scientific claims.
__________________
-- gadol kvod habriot --
Reply With Quote
  #30  
Old 05-22-2012, 01:32 PM
Vadergirl123 Offline
Title:Junior Member
 
Join Date: May 2012
Gender: Female
Posts: 904
Frubals: 19
Vadergirl123 is an unknown quantity at this point
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jayhawker Soule View Post
In fact, the bible makes no scientific claims.
Define scientific claim? Do you not consider the verse. "In the begining God created the heavens and the earth." a scientific claim?
Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
no contradiction, religion, science, word, work

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Similar Threads



All times are GMT -6. The time now is 02:35 PM.


Copyright © 2013 Advameg, Inc.

SEO by vBSEO ©2010, Crawlability, Inc.