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Old 08-05-2011, 10:01 AM
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I am distressed when I find members of my own religion attempting to distance themselves away from science. I am not a one well endowed with scientific knowledge, but from what I understand science is not a belief system but a process used to find the truth. Why would a group of people want to distance themselves from that?

Perhaps it is because science, as of late, has begun to have an impact upon the theological climate. The Evolution/Creationist debate?

I am a theologian, not a scientist. If God created the world in six days, that does nothing to change my desire to love and respect all those around me. If God created the world via billions of years of intricate macro-evolution, that does nothing to change my desire and command to love and respect all those around me. In the end, it is quite irrelevant.

Do not impress or fret over ideas regarding tomorrow or yesterday, worry about today. The here and now. How could I love more today?

As a Christian. I believe THATS our call. Not to fight science...a process for finding the truth.
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Old 08-05-2011, 10:12 AM
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I am distressed when I find members of my own religion attempting to distance themselves away from science. I am not a one well endowed with scientific knowledge, but from what I understand science is not a belief system but a process used to find the truth. Why would a group of people want to distance themselves from that?

Perhaps it is because science, as of late, has begun to have an impact upon the theological climate. The Evolution/Creationist debate?

I am a theologian, not a scientist. If God created the world in six days, that does nothing to change my desire to love and respect all those around me. If God created the world via billions of years of intricate macro-evolution, that does nothing to change my desire and command to love and respect all those around me. In the end, it is quite irrelevant.

Do not impress or fret over ideas regarding tomorrow or yesterday, worry about today. The here and now. How could I love more today?

As a Christian. I believe THATS our call. Not to fight science...a process for finding the truth.
"Often a non-Christian knows something about the earth, the heavens, and the other parts of the world, about the motions and orbits of the stars and even their sizes and distances,... and this knowledge he holds with certainty from reason and experience. It is thus offensive and disgraceful for an unbeliever to hear a Christian talk nonsense about such things, claiming that what he is saying is based in Scripture. We should do all that we can to avoid such an embarrassing situation, lest the unbeliever see only ignorance in the Christian and laugh to scorn."
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Old 08-05-2011, 11:17 AM
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I am distressed when I find members of my own religion attempting to distance themselves away from science. I am not a one well endowed with scientific knowledge, but from what I understand science is not a belief system but a process used to find the truth. Why would a group of people want to distance themselves from that?

Perhaps it is because science, as of late, has begun to have an impact upon the theological climate. The Evolution/Creationist debate?

I am a theologian, not a scientist. If God created the world in six days, that does nothing to change my desire to love and respect all those around me. If God created the world via billions of years of intricate macro-evolution, that does nothing to change my desire and command to love and respect all those around me. In the end, it is quite irrelevant.

Do not impress or fret over ideas regarding tomorrow or yesterday, worry about today. The here and now. How could I love more today?

As a Christian. I believe THATS our call. Not to fight science...a process for finding the truth.
Well said Like you am more of a theologian than scientist, although I do find reading about science fascinating, esp when it pertains to theology. I won't argue it usually though. I do not believe God and science are at war with one another, I think God is the creator of science. I think many Christians don't understand the world's "science" so they pull away from it altogether. Which they shouldn't but often ones focus is simply more on one than the other (theology more than science).

My husband is great at explaining things scientifically and can relate it to his theology well. I on the other hand just do not think like that. Our brains are simply wired differently.
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I am distressed when I find members of my own religion attempting to distance themselves away from science. I am not a one well endowed with scientific knowledge, but from what I understand science is not a belief system but a process used to find the truth. Why would a group of people want to distance themselves from that?

Perhaps it is because science, as of late, has begun to have an impact upon the theological climate. The Evolution/Creationist debate?

I am a theologian, not a scientist. If God created the world in six days, that does nothing to change my desire to love and respect all those around me. If God created the world via billions of years of intricate macro-evolution, that does nothing to change my desire and command to love and respect all those around me. In the end, it is quite irrelevant.

Do not impress or fret over ideas regarding tomorrow or yesterday, worry about today. The here and now. How could I love more today?

As a Christian. I believe THATS our call. Not to fight science...a process for finding the truth.
I agree, sadly there are those who's faith can't be sustained unless they have a literal scripture.

But science has always been at odds with people maintaining a literal view of scripture/mythology.

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I am distressed when I find members of my own religion attempting to distance themselves away from science. I am not a one well endowed with scientific knowledge, but from what I understand science is not a belief system but a process used to find the truth. Why would a group of people want to distance themselves from that?

Perhaps it is because science, as of late, has begun to have an impact upon the theological climate. The Evolution/Creationist debate?

I am a theologian, not a scientist. If God created the world in six days, that does nothing to change my desire to love and respect all those around me. If God created the world via billions of years of intricate macro-evolution, that does nothing to change my desire and command to love and respect all those around me. In the end, it is quite irrelevant.

Do not impress or fret over ideas regarding tomorrow or yesterday, worry about today. The here and now. How could I love more today?

As a Christian. I believe THATS our call. Not to fight science...a process for finding the truth.

excellent post.


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I am distressed when I find members of my own religion attempting to distance themselves away from science. I am not a one well endowed with scientific knowledge, but from what I understand science is not a belief system but a process used to find the truth. Why would a group of people want to distance themselves from that?

Perhaps it is because science, as of late, has begun to have an impact upon the theological climate. The Evolution/Creationist debate?

I am a theologian, not a scientist. If God created the world in six days, that does nothing to change my desire to love and respect all those around me. If God created the world via billions of years of intricate macro-evolution, that does nothing to change my desire and command to love and respect all those around me. In the end, it is quite irrelevant.

Do not impress or fret over ideas regarding tomorrow or yesterday, worry about today. The here and now. How could I love more today?

As a Christian. I believe THATS our call. Not to fight science...a process for finding the truth.
I agree with Outhouse. This is an amazing post.
I've come to believe that science is an extension of God, his conduit and catalyst through which he works to interact with us. That is why so many "miracles", are explainable with science.
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I agree, sadly there are those who's faith can't be sustained unless they have a literal scripture.

But science has always been at odds with people maintaining a literal view of scripture/mythology.

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Absolutely agree with your post and OPs'.

Literalism brings a massive amount of problems. A lot of people just can't handle that things did not happen the way their scripture claims. I think when such people do actually learn that things can be taken metaphorically, they will fare a lot better.
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Well i think religion and science are walking like leading and lagging religion is always ahead of science because science proof what religion has already told us.
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Well i think religion and science are walking like leading and lagging religion is always ahead of science because science proof what religion has already told us.
Then you would generally be incorrect in your thinking because science usually disproves literal readings of religious texts when it comes to subjects related to science.

Neither the Torah, the Bible or the Quran contain any "scientific knowledge" that was not already current thought at the time the relevant passages were recorded.
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