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Old 03-07-2005, 12:34 PM
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Default For those of you looking for absolute proof that God exists....
You will never get that, because God is not allowed to give it.

God is love
Love has to contain 100% free will

If you had a child, you could very easily lock him in the basement for his whole life to "keep him safe". But would this be love? Of course not! God must give you just enough info that if you want to, you can find him, but not enough as to take away your free will to reject him.
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Old 03-07-2005, 12:38 PM
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I thought you were going to say you had found the "Made by God" sticker.

I don't reject the idea that a God may exist, in fact lean more in that direction than I do the other without denying either possibility. However, I do reject most religions that tell us what this God wants us to do to be in good favor and that only they have the right answer. That is where my rejection comes in.
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Old 03-07-2005, 12:55 PM
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I'm beginning to really like you Geoman!
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Huh? That doesn't really make sense to me.
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Old 03-07-2005, 01:08 PM
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Sorry, I agree; for all those who want 'positive proof', you're out of luck. I'm totally with Maize on the subject of QUOTE [rejecting most religions that tell us what this God wants us to do to be in good favor and that only they have the right answer.]; personally, I find that the biggest 'turn off'.
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You will never get that, because God is not allowed to give it.
We gave him a time-out for pathetically poor manners.
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You do not do good in order to be saved. Because you are saved, you do good.

How do you even know what "doing good" is? How does everyone know that "protecting life is good" and "Love is better than Hate". It is because everyone has this moral law written on their heart....by God!
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Old 03-07-2005, 01:30 PM
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You do not do good in order to be saved. Because you are saved, you do good.

How do you even know what "doing good" is? How does everyone know that "protecting life is good" and "Love is better than Hate". It is because everyone has this moral law written on their heart....by God!
So if one ISN'T saved does that mean you can't do good...or are incapable of doing good???
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You will never get that, because God is not allowed to give it.

God is love
Love has to contain 100% free will

If you had a child, you could very easily lock him in the basement for his whole life to "keep him safe". But would this be love? Of course not! God must give you just enough info that if you want to, you can find him, but not enough as to take away your free will to reject him.
That doesn't make sense. Why couldn't he demonstrate that he exists without still allowing the freedom to reject him?
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