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Old 05-29-2007, 05:41 PM
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Satanists do not usually commit suicide before they become old or ill.
true. i haven't heard of the statement that satanists kill themselves before they get old or ill. i would only argue that there may be people out there who might consider it a 'satanic trait' (for lack of a better description) to have the control over your own existence to be able to resolve to end it. i know i myself can see the value in such a way of thinking.
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Suicide is not very Satanic. I think it's pretty absurd for your friend to turn one person's decision into some kind of trend that most Satanists follow. If nothing else, look at Anton LaVey. He got old and died...no suicide there.
anton lavey is not the founder of satanism. yes he modernized it and made it 'official' but he was merely the satanic parallel to what gerald gardner did for wicca/paganism. just because lavey says 'true satanists dont [fill in blank]' doesnt make it true. its just like any other religion or way of thought. groups will have similarities but there will always be differences as well.
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Old 05-29-2007, 10:05 PM
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anton lavey is not the founder of satanism. yes he modernized it and made it 'official' but he was merely the satanic parallel to what gerald gardner did for wicca/paganism. just because lavey says 'true satanists dont [fill in blank]' doesnt make it true. its just like any other religion or way of thought. groups will have similarities but there will always be differences as well.
I absolutely agree with you! I was merely pointing to him as a counter-reference to the musician.
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Old 05-31-2007, 11:50 AM
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Old 05-31-2007, 12:16 PM
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Don't know much about it, but I remember reading a book that talked about fetuses being taken from hospitals and being sacrificed by Satanists. The doctor himself was in on it all and not once did it ever talk about a Satanist actually committing suicide, but only sacrificing. Don't know how much truth there is in that.
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Old 05-31-2007, 12:44 PM
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Don't know much about it, but I remember reading a book that talked about fetuses being taken from hospitals and being sacrificed by Satanists. The doctor himself was in on it all and not once did it ever talk about a Satanist actually committing suicide, but only sacrificing. Don't know how much truth there is in that.
I suspect there's not much truth an any of what you posted Victor. A Satanist wouldn't do that because Satanists believe that children are precious (for lack of a better word). Satanists believe that children are truly innocent because they have not yet been exposed to or indoctrinated into any belief. If someone did this and claimed to be a Satanist, it was merely a claim of someone who's mentally unstable. Afterall, if a self-proclaimed Christian did the exact same thing, wouldn't it be obvious that they really weren't Christian at all?
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Old 05-31-2007, 01:11 PM
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Satanists are Atheists (there could be some that believe in a literal Satan) so who would they sacrifice the fetus to? The Nineth Satanic Rule of the Earth is actually "Do not harm little children."
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anyone who defiles thier temple, which is their self in this life, is odd or ill to begin with....If you are not ill or odd already, you have nothing to fear....
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What? I'm not even sure I understand what you're trying to say? Is this a Christian belief? If so, it doesn't belong in the Satanism DIR forum.
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I suspect there's not much truth an any of what you posted Victor. A Satanist wouldn't do that because Satanists believe that children are precious (for lack of a better word). Satanists believe that children are truly innocent because they have not yet been exposed to or indoctrinated into any belief. If someone did this and claimed to be a Satanist, it was merely a claim of someone who's mentally unstable. Afterall, if a self-proclaimed Christian did the exact same thing, wouldn't it be obvious that they really weren't Christian at all?
Well, any attempt to say what a Christian should or shouldn't do/believe is not taken very well by some people. But yes, it is obvious. But one can only say that if they have some sort of basic understanding of it. As you know, people don't think of cute bunnies and flowers when they think "Satanism". It takes some time for some people to get past the stigmas.

I was rather surprised to see that Satanist view fetuses (which you identified as "children") is such manner.
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Satanists are Atheists (there could be some that believe in a literal Satan) so who would they sacrifice the fetus to? The Nineth Satanic Rule of the Earth is actually "Do not harm little children."
Could be?
I've only met one theistic Satanist and "could be" seems almost a bit hesitant toward them. But I wont get caught up in any theist vs. non-theist skirmish.
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