Christian: Is the Bible inerrantly true? (Jesus, gospel, tradition, evolution)

[Joannicius]

This dogma was not in the Christian realm until approx. 150 years ago. The Church of antiquity could not imagine this becoming a dogma or even in discussion.
When you divorce the Holy Tradition of the Church from the Scripture you by default have to come to the logical end of either throwing the Scripture aside (because it isn't without error) or blindly believing that you have to overlook what errors with the rational that it isn't error I am looking at, it is a problem in my understanding.
When you accept the marriage of Holy Tradition to the Scripture you allow the Church Fathers (Apostles, their diciples, etc.) give us the Church's understanding in those areas where we are confused or just can't grasp.
Admittedly there are areas where we will never understand this side of eternity, but those area don't have to do with the abilility and tools to attain a righteous life.

In summation, we have the tools needed in The Church to live the life of Christ that God has given to us that we may express our love fully for and In Him.

[chris9178]

If it's inerrantly true, there are a lot of things that need some sort of explaning. First off I'd like somebody to adequately debate evolution. I don't particularly like to agree with evolution, and I was raised not too, but 10,000 PhD's make a rather strong case for it.

[keevelish]

I'd like someone to give an error of the Bible first off, so we can discuss that.

[michel]

[Part QUOTE=Joannicius]
In summation, we have the tools needed in The Church to live the life of Christ that God has given to us that we may express our love fully for and In Him.[/quote]
I am a little at odds with your title of the thread; I think what you meant to ask was 'Is the Bible a true and accurate 'manual for life as a God loving person?' - please forgive me if I am wrong.

Your 'in summation remark' seems to imply that we can live the life of Christ; whilst I think your intentions are honorable to the extreme, I don't think many of us could hope to aspire to living as Christ did!

[chris9178]

I'd like someone to give an error of the Bible first off, so we can discuss that.

Like I said.... begin with evolution. Tell me how the creation story is right, and evolution is wrong. I would have utmost respect for you if you could.

[keevelish]

Like I said.... begin with evolution. Tell me how the creation story is right, and evolution is wrong. I would have utmost respect for you if you could.

All I can say is that there is nothing in the world that the Bible contradicts, and that evolution is merely a theory, one with many holes. One has to take the creation story on faith, because we weren't there. But you won't find anything that the Bible says is true that contradicts what we can study.

[Scuba Pete]

The Scripture never claims to be perfect... just inspired.

The Scripture never gives permission to change what it teaches. In fact it tells us that those who DO change the gospel of Christ should be eternally condemned (Gal 1).

If you want to find THE church, compare those you see with the First Century church found in the New Testament. Jesus is the vine... the fruit today is the same as the fruit from the first century. So is the church.

[Mister Emu]

Two things.

I do not believe the Bible to be inerrant because I cannot see how anything that God inspired(is God-breathed) could be in error.

I also have yet to find a single circumstance in which the Bible errs.

This to me points toward inerrancy.

[Scuba Pete]

{Pssst... inerrant means without error)

God inspires men, and puts his spirit within him. Yet ALL men err.

[Mister Emu]

{Pssst... inerrant means without error)

I think we all know what inerrancy means.

God inspires men, and puts his spirit within him. Yet ALL men err.

I know that we all err, that does not necessitate errancy in all things though. I believe that through the inspiration of God that the Biblical writers did not err while writing the Bible.