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Old 02-03-2005, 08:02 AM
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Why are Christians so hung up on sexuality? Was Jesus heterosexual, homosexual, bisexual or asexual--and who cares?
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There are natural laws, and there are spiritual laws, but the spiritual has more precedence. Everything material is temporal and will pass away. There is no gender and no sexual orientation in God's kingdom. Everyone is entitled, regardless.
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I believe, Hoomer, that you have taken Scripture and construed it to fit your pre-existing mindset.

Before pronouncing David as bi, one must take a few things into consideration. First of all, kissing in Middle-Eastern cultures, and even other cultures, is very common, and does not mean one is gay. It is a greeting, a sign of affection, and is done man-to-man, man-to-woman, and woman-to-woman. Usually it is on the cheek. It does not say in the Bible that David kissed Jonathan on the mouth. I think those of us in 'Western' cultures have become so obsessed with stereotyping behavior as either 'gay' or 'straight' that we have lost sight of the beauty and innocence of sharing our affection with another person through physical touch. It doesn't have to mean anything sexual! I spent some time in Brazil many years ago, and I loved how the Brazilian people were incredibly touchy-feely---the common greeting between people was a kiss on both cheeks. I 'kissed' many men and women while there---does that mean I was sexually involved with them? Of course not!! It was merely a greeting, and a way to show affection to a friend.

Also, just because David and Jonathan's love was better than a woman's, does not necessarily mean it was a sexual love. One of my brothers has a best friend who is male, and they have been best friends most of their lives. They, are in fact, so close, that they regularly tell each other they love each other ( their phrase being "I love you, man!" ). Neither are gay or bi, or even close to being so---but they have such a connection, such a kinship, that they are not afraid of telling each other what the other means to them. And they feel that their relationship is, in many ways, superior to that of a relationship between a man and a woman. There is an intense bond there, and it is the kind of bond that does not require a sexual aspect to it. I believe David and Jonathan shared this kind of bond. It is a very beautiful type of friendship, and, unfortunately, in this day and age of 'hyper-sexuality-and-over-sensitivity' we don't see many of these types of friendships between males. ( At least I don't. ) And that whole thing about the 'disrobing'---it doesn't say there was any nakedness involved. That is your own interpretation.

So, in summary, the opinion that David was bi is just that---an opinion. And, as I have pointed out, there are other factors to take into consideration before making the assumption that he was bi.

One more thing.....God does forbid 'men lying with men' in the Old Testament. I'm pretty sure it's in Leviticus somewhere....I'll try to find it later.
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