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Old 07-20-2008, 10:58 AM
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How can an atheist be thankful in this situation when they have NO ONE to be thankful to.
That's what I'm wondering!
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Old 07-20-2008, 12:20 PM
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How can an atheist be thankful in this situation when they have NO ONE to be thankful to.
Asked and answered by atheists in this thread and very well I might add.

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Why must there be a who? I'm just glad that I have these things.
Generally because you give thanks to an entity for giving you something or helping you in someway, and again generally giving thanks implies a conscious recipient of the thanks.
For example, if someone holds a door open for me I will thank them, but I don't thank automatic doors despite the fact that they perform exactly the same operation.

This is why I think it must just be a thing that has worked its way into common language usage, probably from theistic origins. After all, you're not actually thanking anyone when you see nice things, you're just pleased or happy or relieved etc depending on the situation, but you express that through "thanks" much in the same why that I might say "Thank God for that!" when something happens that I'm pleased about, I don't believe in God and aren't thanking Him, its just an expression that's worked its way into common usage.
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That's what I'm wondering!
Thankful towards luck and good fortune. I know the question is a weak attempt to suggest the feeling of thanks is evidence of god, but let's say a bank robber escapes with his loot and goes uncaptured, should his feeling thankful for it be directed at god? Would you suggest god aided and abided a criminal because he was successful and thankful?
Come on, guys. It doesn't take that much thought to understand. People are naturally appreciative of good things that come to them. Do you honestly believe people should be indifferent and unemotional in response to good fortune unless an invisible sky daddy factors in? If we should attribute luck to god, then the same goes for bad luck as well, making god random, erratic, evil and insane.

Nice try, though.

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Old 07-20-2008, 09:48 PM
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Father Heathen, what you are describing is someone feeling "fortunate", which is not the same as "thankful". Nice try, though.

This thread wasn't created as a "gotcha" thread. It was brought up to question the popular usage of the word "thankful". It seems to me that the word has lost a lot of its meaning. If you do indeed disregard fate or destiny, then the word "thankful" should not be part of your vocabulary in regards to circumstances seemingly outside of anyones control.

Fortune and luck, however, seems a fitting outlook. I find that a perfectly suitable response. What I don't understand is an atheist being "thankful" towards no one in particular. It makes no sense.
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Old 07-20-2008, 11:54 PM
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The problem with asserting your good fortunes is a gift from a god is the assumption that god answered your prayer or blessed you with a random act of kindness. What makes the assertion extremely weak is the world-wide suffering so many endure. I'll just name one, between 30,000 to 50,000 people die every day from starvation.

Which begs the question, what is the difference between being thankful or feeling fortunate. I think in this context, there is no difference.
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Father Heathen, what you are describing is someone feeling "fortunate", which is not the same as "thankful". Nice try, though.

This thread wasn't created as a "gotcha" thread. It was brought up to question the popular usage of the word "thankful". It seems to me that the word has lost a lot of its meaning. If you do indeed disregard fate or destiny, then the word "thankful" should not be part of your vocabulary in regards to circumstances seemingly outside of anyones control.

Fortune and luck, however, seems a fitting outlook. I find that a perfectly suitable response. What I don't understand is an atheist being "thankful" towards no one in particular. It makes no sense.
Don't really get what you're asking, are you wanting atheists to be thankful to some specific person or object? Otherwise this question is pointless.
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