LDS Only: Self-righteousness in our midst

[DisneyMan]

Originally Posted by madhatter85

no, we share stuff to let you know how things are going to be later for us all.

the parable of the ten Virgins. YOU take it to mean that we are judging you when in reality YOU are judging yourself.

Again, nice try. Why else would the parable be shared than to imply "we're in this group" and "you're burning in hell."

[DisneyMan]

Originally Posted by FFH

We are proclaiming righteousness, as Christ has warned us to do, otherwise we will be held accountable.

We have the right to judge righteous judgement upon others, as we see fit, and are commanded to do so, otherwise we might as well also eliminate all the leaders of the LDS church, since you seem to think we need no righteous judges.

I'm not a perfect judge and neither is any man or any leader of the LDS church, but on some issues the line is clearly drawn and hard to mistake which side of the fence others are on.

We are commanded to....

D&C 88: 81
Behold, I sent you out to testify and warn the people, and it becometh every man who hath been warned to warn his neighbor.

When Christ uses the term neighbor, he means those we come in contact with on a daily basis, not just our literal neighbors, whom we may never speak to, or come into direct contact with anyway, in certain situations.

I'm at work so much I rarely see my neighbors, and they rarely see me, yet I talk to many others on a daily basis, those are my neighbors. those are the ones whom I'm responsible to warn.

Rev. 22: 7
Behold, I come quickly...

Call me what you will, it makes no difference to me in the end.

I'm struggling with sin just as much as any other man, yet I know where I need to draw the line on any given issue, and strive to obtain the standard Christ has set and the line he has clearly drawn.

I know I'll make it because Christ has promised us we would, if we do what he says, which many of us will do if we keep trying.

Your just as bad as those "christians" I've run into that bash Mormonism until their face turns red and when called out on it they claim they do it out of love and worry for my soul.

Cut from the same cloth, I'd say.

[DisneyMan]

Originally Posted by silvermoon383

Will you all stop it already?

I will not sit idly by while others trample on the rights of good people in this country while also telling me I'm a sinner for believing the way I do.

[madhatter85]

Originally Posted by DisneyMan

I will not sit idly by while others trample on the rights of good people in this country while also telling me I'm a sinner for believing the way I do.

And that is your choice and your free-agency.

Joshua 24:

15 And if it seem evil unto you to serve the Lord, choose you this day whom ye will serve; whether the gods which your fathers served that were on the other side of the flood, or the gods of the Amorites, in whose land ye dwell: but as for me and my house, we will serve the Lord.

[DisneyMan]

Originally Posted by madhatter85

And that is your choice and your free-agency.

Joshua 24:

Thanks for another example of your self-righteousness. You are telling me I'm not serving the Lord.

[madhatter85]

Originally Posted by DisneyMan

Thanks for another example of your self-righteousness. You are telling me I'm not serving the Lord.

I'm Not telling you who you are or are not serving. I am merely asserting whom it is that i serve. If by implication you feel like you aren't serving the Lord, then that is not my fault.

[madhatter85]

Moroni 7:18

18 And now, my brethren, seeing that ye know the light by which ye may judge, which light is the light of Christ, see that ye do not judge wrongfully; for with that same judgment which ye judge ye shall also be judged.

I have no problem being judged in whatever judgements i may have toward other people.

That is why we are not to judge others RASHLY, because with the same judgements that we place on others we are also judged.

Mormon 8:

19 For behold, the same that judgeth rashly shall be judged rashly again; for according to his works shall his wages be; therefore, he that smiteth shall be smitten again, of the Lord.

[FFH]

Joshua 24:
15 And if it seem evil unto you to serve the Lord, choose you this day whom ye will serve; whether the gods which your fathers served that were on the other side of the flood, or the gods of the Amorites, in whose land ye dwell: but as for me and my house, we will serve the Lord.

Wow, weird, I was going to post that scripture earlier, but chose not to for some reason.

This scripture flooded my mind over and over, but I didn't post it for fear of being overbearing or called "self-righteous". What a stupid description of how we really are. I know you and would never slap a label like that on you. I would hope someone would warn/help me if I was in need of correction.

We should never be in fear of posting what comes to our minds, no matter how much the opposing party lashes out at us.

You and I know sin, we've experienced it enough to know it's degrading affects on our lives and we try and avoid sin as much as possible, because of our past experiences. We try to avoid that which would bring more pain into our lives, yet we still struggle.

We proclaim God's standards of righteousness, yet still struggle to keep his commandments ourselves no doubt.

Paul spoke of this as a "thorn in the flesh" yet he kept on preaching and recording scripture which served to warn and encourage others.

Paul still struggled with sin, yet he kept on preaching God's standard of righteousness until his death.

[madhatter85]

Originally Posted by FFH

Wow, weird, I was going to post that scripture earlier, but chose not to for some reason.

This scripture flooded my mind over and over, but I didn't post it for fear of being overbearing or called "self-righteous". What a stupid description of how we really are. I know you and would never slap a label like that on you. I would hope someone would warn/help me if I was in need of correction.

We should never be in fear of posting what comes to our minds, no matter how much the opposing party lashes out at us.

You and I know sin, we've experienced it enough to know it's degrading affects on our lives and we try and avoid sin as much as possible, because of our past experiences. We try to avoid that which would bring more pain into our lives, yet we still struggle.

We proclaim God's standards of righteousness, yet still struggle to keep his commandments ourselves no doubt.

Paul spoke of this as a "thorn in the flesh" yet he kept on preaching and recording scripture which served to warn and encourage others.

Paul still struggled with sin, yet he kept on preaching God's standard of righteousness until his death.

Yes exactly, I was never claiming to be perfect.

There was a quote i am trying to find. it might be from The Miracle of forgiveness.

it goes something to the effect of "If we all waitied untill we were perfect to speak, nothing would ever be said." I know it's an LDS Apostle quote but i'm having trouble finding it again.

We don't know what Affliction Paul had weither it be a temptation or a physical burden that didn't heal or what. But it was there to keep him humble.

A long time ago when i was inactive a beam fell on my foot at work. and from a coupel mor series of events my toe began to bleed. it began to bleed for 2 years and refused to heal. I did not have medical insurance but i kept thinking that it would just go away. it became infected and inflamed, but then some days it looked as if it was healing.

I know the Lord did not allow it to heal properly and it became a "thorn in my flesh" and when i read about Paul and his trial. I almost cried because i knew at that instant that the Lord was teaching me a lesson.

When i had finished the repentance process, the lord allowed it to heal.